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04-20-2019, 02:09 PM #181
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I didn't listen to my inner voice that said "something's not right". I should have sent Garret (the engineer) an email for verification before proceeding. While I'm still mad, ultimately it is my install and I connected the wires.
Monday I will take out the 6/3 out and run 6/2. (No, I can't just move wires. I snipped off the copper ground wire on both ends. Cables are now too short.) I'm going to be taking it apart anyway to finish the console and other minor projects to make it look nice and neat, so the loss is about $180 in wire and a few hours time. (I can't have you looking at the install in August the way it looks now!)
In the big scheme of things a minor setback. It's all good.2017 Ford F-350 DRW 6.7L Platinum
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04-20-2019, 02:22 PM #182
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Unless your inverter/charger is wired differently than mine, there are only 3 places for wires - Black, white, and ground. Does your inverter have room for four wires?
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04-20-2019, 02:29 PM #183
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The short answer: no. 240V is never used anywhere in the trailer.
Long answer:
Below is AM Solar's unmodified diagram. (Caution: This is not a wiring schematic, per se, but it shows you how it works.)
Look closely at the SmartATS. When shore power/generator is available, two separate 120V lines power L1 and L2 (just like a stock trailer). Note that L1 from the GEN IN is tied to both L1 and L2 at the SHORE IN relay.
When shore power is not available the inverter provides a single 120V source on both L1 and L2. The overall power available is still only 3000W, but all of the outlets in the trailer have access to that power.
The advantage should be obvious. No sub-panels, no limiting yourself to just one leg in your c/b panel with power from the inverter, etc.
This is the reason I went with AMSolar. There's nothing else out there (that I found) that is such an elegant answer to the problem of an inverter having a single 120V output with the trailer having two 120V lines (a.k.a. 50A service).
If I haven't blown up your brain cells yet, consider as well the Victron's inverter hybrid or assist mode. AMSolar's setup works fantastic with limited shore power and the inverter "helping". The two sources combine and are made available to all of the trailer's circuits.
I may have some detail above wrong and I hope a real electrician chimes in to correct me if I got something wrong. All I know is it works. And works seamlessly without any intervention from me.2017 Ford F-350 DRW 6.7L Platinum
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04-20-2019, 05:11 PM #184
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Howard...sorry to hear about the challenges. I had to re-read this a couple times to figure out what mistake you made. It sounds like you wired 6/3 from the Inverter Input/Output which should be 6/2. I know AM Solar provides this wire but I had the same issue that it was too short the 6/2 wire they provided. I ended up going to home depot to buy more 6/2 wire to make the second run from the inverter....and that stuff is not cheap!
It might be worth having a phone call with Garett to explain what happened. With your issues and misinformation you have been provided I would try and see if they would ship you more 6/2 free of charge (or cheaply) rather than spending another $180 at home depot. The only issue is you will have to wait....which I am sure you would like to get it taken care of quickly. I would think with their misinformation they would do this to make the costumer happy.
On a positive note, you are close and you know it works which is great news!Damon and Colleen
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04-20-2019, 06:46 PM #185
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I can't wait for AMSolar to ship the wiring. I have a trip scheduled and must get the work completed. Monday morning it all comes back apart and I will fix the wiring, cover the console to make it look good, etc. Target is 100% by Wednesday.
What really mystifies me is Garret sent me an email with the wires required and he wrote I needed 6/3 from the inverter to the SmartATS. To show you this is not a "he said, she said" situation here's the email (again, posted with his permission):
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04-20-2019, 06:48 PM #186
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04-21-2019, 06:19 AM #187
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04-21-2019, 06:57 AM #188
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04-21-2019, 07:18 AM #189
Hi Howard,
As I understand this, you have three 6 ga wires in place right now. (Just not using the bare copper ground in the 6/3 cable). The only problem is the color of the insulation. I would use this wire and change the insulation color of the exposed sections with electrical tape or, better yet, shrink tube. The electricity will not care what color the insulation is . And, having less than consistent wire colours is nothing new to RVs! (Save the $180 . . . you have the right gauge wire in place).
RobCate & Rob
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04-21-2019, 12:27 PM #190
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Agree that it's easier to use the colored electrical tape to mark exposed ends of the wires.
I think the biggest plus is it worked, not smoke!- Gene
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