Maybe getting Ram 3500 DWR

**chemist308** · 01-03-2020, 06:40 AM

So, I'm flying home from my gig to possibly buy a 2019 Ram 3500 DWR. Dealers seem to be stuck with 2019 models, which results in some savings on my end

Been working with a sales guy via phone and pics, but when it comes to getting the truck's payload and GCWR, it's been smoke and mirrors--like he doesn't even know where to look. I ask payload, and I get 35,100 lbs which is Ram's max tow. Then he tells me that GCWR, which I doubt because it's got the high output Cummins and Aisin transmission. I ask for the sticker in the door, and he sends it. GVWR is 14000, and it has the axle ratings. But I still don't know where to get the actual GCWR and Payload for the truck. I suppose I could get payload if I could get curb weight and do math, but I haven't even seen that...

Ram owners, where on the truck or in the truck's documentation do I get the payload or curb weight and GCWR?

**TheGuy** · 01-03-2020, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by chemist308

So, I'm flying home from my gig to possibly buy a 2019 Ram 3500 DWR. Dealers seem to be stuck with 2019 models, which results in some savings on my end

Been working with a sales guy via phone and pics, but when it comes to getting the truck's payload and GCWR, it's been smoke and mirrors--like he doesn't even know where to look. I ask payload, and I get 35,100 lbs which is Ram's max tow. Then he tells me that GCWR, which I doubt because it's got the high output Cummins and Aisin transmission. I ask for the sticker in the door, and he sends it. GVWR is 14000, and it has the axle ratings. But I still don't know where to get the actual GCWR and Payload for the truck. I suppose I could get payload if I could get curb weight and do math, but I haven't even seen that...

Ram owners, where on the truck or in the truck's documentation do I get the payload or curb weight and GCWR?

Take a look here. Scroll to the bottom and there's a link to "look up my vehicle". You should be able to put the vin in the box and get the specs for that specific truck. I wish everyone had that...

https://www.ramtrucks.com/towing-gui...BoCL50QAvD_BwE

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**NordicNevs** · 01-03-2020, 06:52 AM

Should be inside your drivers side door jam
There are usually 2 stickers

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**chemist308** · 01-03-2020, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by TheGuy

Take a look here. Scroll to the bottom and there's a link to "look up my vehicle". You should be able to put the vin in the box and get the specs for that specific truck. I wish everyone had that...

https://www.ramtrucks.com/towing-gui...BoCL50QAvD_BwE

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Thanks @TheGuy That was extremely helpful. Is there anywhere on the truck or in the truck's paperwork I can look to confirm those numbers?

**NordicNevs** · 01-03-2020, 07:12 AM

Here is what your sticker should look like

You’ll see the GVWR on it

The other sticker in the door jam will have your payload numbers

Shame a salesman knows so little

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Oh and the link below,

https://fcacommunity.force.com/RAM/s/equipment-listing

enter your Vin here and get the factory build sheet (different than a window sticker)

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**Steven@147** · 01-03-2020, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by chemist308

Thanks @TheGuy That was extremely helpful. Is there anywhere on the truck or in the truck's paperwork I can look to confirm those numbers?

On our 2018 Ram the GCWR is not listed on the truck door jam. Only the GVWR and payload is. You have to get GCWR or max tow cap from the owners manual or the VIN breakdown. Of course the payload number doesn’t account for anything the dealer added after production.

**chemist308** · 01-03-2020, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by NordicNevs

Here is what your sticker should look like

You’ll see the GVWR on it

The other sticker in the door jam will have your payload numbers

Shame a salesman knows so little

Oh and the link below,

https://fcacommunity.force.com/RAM/s/equipment-listing

enter your Vin here and get the factory build sheet (different than a window sticker)

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I followed that link and got an error message that said invalid vin. I entered the VIN exactly as in the door sticker photo.

**TheGuy** · 01-03-2020, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by chemist308

Thanks @TheGuy That was extremely helpful. Is there anywhere on the truck or in the truck's paperwork I can look to confirm those numbers?

You're welcome. I honestly don't know other than stickers and scale weights. I haven't actually seen the output of that tool since I drive a Chevy, but I knew about (and am slightly jealous of) it and figured I'd let you know.

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**geotex1** · 01-03-2020, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by chemist308

I followed that link and got an error message that said invalid vin. I entered the VIN exactly as in the door sticker photo.

Like most FCA systems, the build sheet gopher is flakey! Sometimes it works, most times it doesn't. Do make sure you didn't confuse a "0" zero with the letter "O". There are no letter "O" in VINs.

Your salesperson is probably only guilty of smoke and mirrors because he or she has no clue what you're asking! The days when they actually knew the products they sold are gone! When you find one who does, leave immediately and buy a lottery ticket!

Good luck with your purchase!

**geotex1** · 01-03-2020, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by chemist308

Thanks @TheGuy That was extremely helpful. Is there anywhere on the truck or in the truck's paperwork I can look to confirm those numbers?

Just compare the payload to the door sticker. The door sticker is required and will be there. Unless it's changed recently, RAM does not have the combined rating on the sticker. FYI - the cargo capacity is on the sticker on the jamb, not the one on the door edge.