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Thread: Three blowouts on one trip!
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09-21-2022, 01:41 PM #21
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Most of the issues with the Westlake are with the smaller diameter, or lesser load range. The Westlake "G" tires seem to perform better with fewer problems.
Howard and Peggy
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09-28-2022, 02:30 PM #22
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09-28-2022, 03:57 PM #23
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I blew out a Westlake on my 2021 Imagine (probably had less than 10,000 miles on it) in August. After hearing all the problems with the Westlake tires I went to Discount Tire and replaced all four (at about $160 each) with the Goodyear equivalent. Peace of mind, at least! I need to add that Discount Tire said that they used to handle Westlake but their failure rate had forced them to drop the line.
Jay - Edna, Texas
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09-28-2022, 04:00 PM #24
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I’ve had two sets of Westlake g’s, never had a problem with any of them. I believe the key is to replace them in that 4-5 year range (from date stamp on tire).
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09-28-2022, 04:52 PM #25
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Thats why they call them Westlake bombs. I heard about this right after buying my rls 303 in Laughlin NV. I finished my winter stay in AZ, went home to Oregon and replaced them with sailuns. I probably didn't have 2k miles on them. I've had blowouts on other trailers. I sure didn't want to risk it with known Westlake failure reputation. Sorry to hear about your misfortune.
Alan and Paula
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09-28-2022, 07:11 PM #26
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We had 3 almost new tires (Chinese made but don't remember what brand) go bad in two seasons on our first fifth wheel but have had really good luck (maybe just luck) with the Westlake load rating "E" tires that came with our 230RL. Finished this summer's 12,000 kilometre run (7500 miles), including through super-hot conditions in the US southwest, and our 5 year old tires now have 44,000 kilometres (27,000 miles) on them. Plenty of tread left for local trips but will replace them before going east next year.
I'm thinking that the main reason for such longevity, besides running them at the manufacture's recommended max pressure of 80 psi, is my driving speed ... 55 to 58 mph. Thankyou my polite and kind American friends for allowing me to dawdle along in front of you. We were delighted with how you folks (except Californians) stay at or below speed limits most of the time. And of course, on multi-lanes we just stayed out of the way in the driving lane.2000 Jayco Eagle 243RKS 1992 Dodge 250 5.9 Cummins (retired)
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09-28-2022, 07:38 PM #27
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I apologize in advance, but I disagree with your statement that the tire monitor system is no good. A lot of people on here will disagree just about everything I am about to say, but please here me out...I also had a 2016 Westlake tire take out the side of my wheel well ($1750 insurance claim) and that was the last time I followed the advise on here about tire pressures.
We have a 2016 Solitude 370FL. I used to run the tires a little under rated max pressure until I read on here that the max pressure should ALWAYS be used as Gospel. The morning of the insurance claim I set all four tires to exactly 80 PSI at 70 degrees temp. 90 minutes later I had the same explosion you had and we travel only 62 Mph. On a previous trailer I had two blowouts by setting to the max pressure.
Depending on which way the wind is blowing you will read several ways on here to set your tire pressure. Here's what I did about 3 years or so ago...
First, I researched and purchased the EEZ Tire system with 10 sensors and a repeater (Our 2006 F250 Super Duty has no TPMS sensors). My brother had those and liked them.
Second, I bought 4-Carlisle 14-ply Load Range "G" trailer tires. We had same four Carlisle tires on our 39 foot travel trailer for 20 of the 25 years we pulled it. I checked the back-side of my Solitude rims and discovered that they were rated for max 110 Lbs tire pressure, as are the new Carlisle tires.
Third, I set all of my sensor MAX pressures to the max cold pressures on the tires. I then set all of the tires to that max pressure.
Here's what happened...We got 15 miles down the road and all of my tires had to have air let out because the pressures went up, which I expected. However, this went on for a long time until the pressure finally stopped increasing.
Here's what I learned from this... My trailer tires gain 30-35 Lbs each while running down the freeway at 62 Mph with the tires in the sun being 5-10 Lbs higher than the shade side. That would put them way over the maximum rim pressure rating had I not set them lower to start with.
I started experimenting... My truck tires are rated 80 PSI max cold. I start out with the front truck tires at about 72 Psi, and the dually's at about 70 because they feel the engine heat more. If it is a hot day I start my trailer tires about 83 Lbs and about 88 on a cooler day.
Prognosis: My tires are showing almost no wear and they stop increasing pressure after about an hour to 90 minutes on the road. If I set them correctly, one or two of the trailer tires might actually hit the 110 max pressure but they stop there. Peace of mind while pulling all that machinery down the freeway is priceless compared to the cost of the sensors.
I know this is not what is being advised by most on this forum, but this really works for us. The tire temps never get more than a few degrees over ambient temperature, but I don't really trust that measurement because it is taken outside of the tires in the airflow passing by. Setting the tire pressures after hooking up is the last thing before winding up the power cord for us. Please buy the Carlisle tires (they cost $100 less than the tires for my Taurus)!
PM me if you care to discuss further...Last edited by fez111; 09-28-2022 at 07:48 PM.
Frank and Char + Maya, Newport, Michigan. 2016 Solitude 379FL/2006 F250 6.0 diesel w/dually conversion. 4th rain-sense roof vent, two ceiling fans, Kodiak disc brakes, Carlisle G 14-ply tires, Water Miser x2, final dump valve, water header tank, fridge cond fan switch, outside range exhaust, elec hot water anode, filtered drinking water, triple battery box,
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09-29-2022, 05:45 AM #28
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Last edited by Keebler; 09-29-2022 at 05:54 AM.
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09-29-2022, 05:53 AM #29
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We had a blowout on our 2020 Imagine with E rated Westlakes, tires had less than 3000 miles. I replaced them with Goodyear Endurance tires and so far they have been fine. We seem to be getting 1 mpg better mileage as well.
Evan & Mary
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09-29-2022, 11:05 AM #30
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