311BHS Is the deal $$ looking good?

[larry0071]

I would think you can get a similar deal on a non-rusted one.

Like I said, we have non-rusty, with 2nd air rigs for less than $1000 more.

Try Boyer's RV in Erie. Ask to talk to Brandon. Tell him Steve from Tom Schaeffer's recommended you call him. (not sure where you are from)

I did it with your buddy Brandon. He's putting the details together tomorrow on a 2020.5 (White exterior with grey interior) and setting my factory Puck system up with the junk to attach part A to part B. He showed pictures of a clean black frame, no salt or rust. A bit higher price, but way cleaner chassis. Done deal. Sign me up.

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[larry0071]

Should I ask him to set it up with 2 x 6 volts, 1 12v or dual 12v?

I really wish it provided the possibility of a washer/dryer. That's one caveat to this 311... Why not find a way to get that option in there?

It has the Goodyear tires, so that's nice. My current trailer had 14 wheels and Castle Bomb tires, I got it home and removed them and bought 15" aluminum wheels and Kenda Karrier tires.

We are getting excited over the concept of having storage space and cooking space.

How do you like the radio speakers on the outside? Do the speakers sound good or do they sound crappy?

Is the 40" a Roku/smart TV?

Is there anything I need to have the dealer add?

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[NordicNevs]

Dual 12s is the way to go


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[larry0071]

I'm considering upgrading next year. Curious how you got dual 220A alternators with the 6.4L. That option is only available on the diesel I thought. The Snow Chief Package comes with a single 220A alternator and requires 18" wheels. Did you go aftermarket to get 20"? Just curious because the Snow Chief package is something I'm considering in my next truck.

I popped the hood and only see one alternator.

This is the actual build list on my VIN:

Equipment Listing
Vehicle Description 2019 RAM 2500 BIG HORN CREW CAB 4X4
Monotone Paint
730 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Brake Assist
Ready Alert Braking
Electronic Stability Control
Hill Start Assist
Traction Control
Electronic Roll Mitigation
Trailer Sway Damping
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Prem Vinyl Door Trim w/Map Pocket
Key Fob - Satin Chrome
Front Height Adjust Shoulder Belts
Supplemental Side Air Bags
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags
Supplemental Frt Seat Side Air Bags
Floor Covering Carpet
Door Sill Scuff Pads
Driver/Passenger Assist Handles
Rear Underseat Compartment Storage
Overhead Console
Electronic Range Select
6,000# Front Axle

STANDARD EQUIPMENT
Elec Shift-On-The-Fly Transfer Case
3.73 Axle Ratio
11.50" Single Wheel Rear Axle
Conventional Differential Frt Axle
Tinted Glass Windows
Acoustic Front Door Glass
Tinted Acoustic Windshield Glass
Remote Keyless Entry
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Pushbutton Start
Dash Liner Insulation
Floor Tunnel Insulation
Instr. Panel Color Keyed Bezel
120 MPH Primary Speedometer
I/P Bezels-Painted W Hydrographics
Temperature & Compass Gauge
Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
Dual Note Electric Horns
12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
Power Accessory Delay
Speed Sensitive Power Locks
Pwr Front Windows, 1-Touch,Up & Down
Instrument Cluster Theme 1 (Base)
Illuminated Entry
Front Passenger Seat Belt Alert
Vehicle Information Center
Map/Courtesy Lamp
Overhead Cupholder Lamp
Headlamp Off Time Delay
Automatic Headlamps
Daytime Running Headlamps, Low Beam
Red Tail Lamp Bezels
Front License Plate Bracket
Active Grille Shutters
"RAM" Door Badges
"RAM" Grille Badge
Grille-Gloss Black Billets W/Chrm
Chrome Headlamp Bezels
Ram's Head Badge
Front Wheel Well Liners
Black-Out Tape
Ram 2500 Badge
4X4 Badge
Front Air Dam
Big Horn Badge
31 Gallon Fuel Tank
Speed Control
Bright White Clear Coat
6 Speakers
Accent Color Shark Fin Antenna
Media Hub-2 USB, Full Funct, Aux
Remote USB Port - Charge Only
Power Steering
Heavy Duty Suspension
Front Stabilizer Bar
Tilt Steering Column
Full Size Spare Tire
Tire Carrier Winch
18" Steel Spare Wheel
ParkView Rear Back-up Camera
Pickup Box
Coat Hooks
7 Pin Wiring Harness
Class V Receiver Hitch
Trailer Tow w/4-Pin Connector Wiring
Front/Rear Climate Control Outlets
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display
Trailer Brake Control
Locking Tailgate
Body Color Fuel Filler Door
'Why Buy' Label
English/USA Language
Bumper Module I
Bumper Module II
Grille Module
Center Console Parts Module
Headliner Parts Module
Seat Parts Module
Instrument Panel Parts Module
Door Parts Module
Front End Parts Module
Tire & Wheel Parts Module
Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications
GVW Rating - 10000#
U.S. Dealer Retail
Zone 35-Washington
Crew Cab
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
2019 Vehicle Specifications
Price Class H - SLT
6 FT. Cargo Box
2500 Series
DJ/6303 Vehicle Family
Vehicle Order Tracking
U.S. Specifications Label
Pennsylvania Ship to State Code
Pennsylvania Sold to State Code
Premium Cloth Bucket Seats
Black
Sport Appearance Package
Heavy Duty Snow Plow Prep Group
5th Wheel/Gooseneck Towing Prep Grp
Off Road Package
Level 2 Equipment Group
220 Amp Alternator
Hill Descent Control
Bucket Seats
2nd Row In Floor Storage Bins
4 Way Front Headrests
Rear 60/40 Folding Seat
Supp. Side Curtain Frt/Rr Air Bags
Front & Rear Rubber Floor Mats
Heated Front Seats
2 Way Rear Headrest Seat

OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
Front Seat Back Map Pockets
Full Length Upgraded Floor Console
Folding Flat Load Floor Storage
Foam Bottle Insert (Door Trim Pnl)
Rotary Shifter-Black
All Automatic Transmissions
8-Spd Auto 8HP75-LCV Transmission
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
6.4L Heavy Duty V8 HEMI with MDS
Rear Window Defroster
Rear Power Sliding Window
Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
Rear View Auto Dim Mirror
Mirrors-Tow Pwr Adj/Fold/Heat Black
All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
Power Sunroof
Air Cond ATC w/Dual Zone Control
Cluster 7.0" TFT Color Display
115V Auxiliary Rear Power Outlet
Locking Lower Glove Box
Dual Glove Boxes
115V Auxiliary Front Power Outlet
GPS Antenna Input
Active Noise Control System
Power 2-Way Driver Lumbar Adjust
Driver Seat - Power Adjust 8-Way
Frt Pass Seat - Manual Adjust 4-Way
LED Tail Lamps
Footwell Courtesy Lamp
Glove Box Lamp
Ext. Mirrors w/Supplemental Signals
Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
Trailer Tow Mirrors
Power-Folding Mirrors
Black Exterior Mirrors
Rear Dome w/On/Off Switch Lamp
Clearance Lamps
Front LED Fog Lamps
Mirror Running Lights
Ctr Stop Lamp w/Cargo View Camera
LED Reflector Headlamps
Security Alarm
Painted Front Bumper
Painted Rear Bumper
Off Road Decal
Grille-Surround Body Color
Body Color Door Handles
IP Badge "Big Horn"
Dampened Tailgate
Hemi Badge
50 State Emissions
Exterior Mirrors w/Heating Element
Electronically Controlled Throttle
Heated Steering Wheel
Next Generation Engine Controller
Bright White Clear Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls
8.4" Touchscreen Display
Apple CarPlay
Google Android Auto
USB Host Flip
SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices
Remote USB Port
Dual Remote USB Port
Integrated Center Stack Radio
Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
Front Perf Tuned Shock Absorbers
Rear Perf Tuned Shock Absorbers
LT285/60R20E OWl On/Off Road Tires
Firestone Brand Tires
Uconnect 4 with 8.4" Display
All Aluminum Wheels
Center Hub
20X8.0 Paintd Alum Whls Chrm Insrts
ParkSense FT/RR Park Assist System
Blind Spot and Cross Path Detection
Power Adjustable Pedals
Remote Start System
Tip Start
Vendor Painted Cargo Box
Tow Hooks
Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
Universal Garage Door Opener
400W Inverter
Spray in Bedliner
Integrated Voice Command w/Bluetooth
Black Interior Accents
1-Yr. SiriusXM Radio Service
For More Info, Call 800-643-2112
5.2 Additional Gallons of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
Customer Preferred Package 2TZ
Customer Preferred Package 2ZZ
Sales Tracking
4X4 Tracking
Vendor Painted Cargo Box Tracking
Saltillo Truck Assembly Plant
Easy Order
Priority Tracking
United States Region Group
NAFTA Region

[jasonl78]

Thanks for the update Larry. It makes sense to me now and the world is right. You actually got the Heavy Duty Snow Plow Prep Group and not the Snow Chief Group. That's how you were able to get 20" wheels.

[larry0071]

What's the difference in what I got and the snow chief?

I believe mine has an increased front axle loading (different springs, or would it be a larger actual axle housing and ring/opinion/shaft?), I guess the single (not dual) 220 alternator and the silly skid plate.

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[larry0071]

Thanks for the update Larry. It makes sense to me now and the world is right. You actually got the Heavy Duty Snow Plow Prep Group and not the Snow Chief Group. That's how you were able to get 20" wheels.

Jason, Is the 6.4L with the old transmission as bad as folks claim in the HDRam forum? The 6.4L and 8 speed is very good pulling my equipment trailer with equipment on it. Folks on that forum say that the 8 speed is a game changer for the 6.4L and make it into the towing platform that the previous generation owners thought that they were getting. I never rode/drove one prior to the 8 speed... hopefully when you do you get a WOW experience from the updated transmission. This is my second German sourced ZF 8 speed, I had the 2017 Ram 1500 5.7L 8 speed prior to this 2019. That was a flawless beast that towed way better than it should.

I also discovered the limitation to towing with the Ram 1500.... It is the control arms. I pulled just over 14K lbs about 10 miles with it and smashed the bushings out of the control arms, had to replace all 4. It seems that the 3.92 gears, 5.7L and 8 speed will provide the thrust to the point that the small bushings split and the rubber squishes out.... If you look under the Ram 2500 the control arm bushings are about 3X the diameter... the control arm tube is also massive compared to the 1500.

I know the 3500 guys claim that the coil suspension and 4 link on the 2500 is weak, but seeing how giant it is compared to that 1500... and how abusive I was to that 1500.... It is going to take a crazy amount of stupid to break the 2500. Give me a little time though. I'll get it done :-)

[jasonl78]

Larry,

Where I live it's reasonably flat. I only travel within my home state. There are places that I go where there are some up and down small hills. It's very noticeable downshifting when climbing them. It's more of Hemi rumble you hear than anything else though. I was excited to hear that the 8 speed was going to be in the HDs. I liked it in my 13 Ram 1500. One thing I have seen on these forums is people talking about transmission temps. Usually it's the Ford guys. I'm not knocking Fords just to be clear but I've seen a few posts where folks were seeing their tranny temps running around 240F. Sounds like that might just be where the Fords run. Loaded or unloaded, my 3500 ALWAYS runs between 168F and 170F. Gives me a bit of relief knowing that even though it's shifting often going up and down the hills, my temps stay low.

2500 is the most popular HD size class here in my state. I personally chose to go 3500 because the license tabs cost me $136/yr. The same 2500 model would be well over $600. The savings alone just in license was worth the jump to the 3500. I've got all kinds of extra payload now as well if I wanted to go bigger or haul more. It just made sense for me. If I upgrade to a new HD I will definitely get another 3500. I also will get another gas engine. I would like to go 4.10s next time but I think the only way to get that is by going DRW and I don't want that. I've got some time to think about what I want to do. For now, I am satisfied with the current setup. I would like to see how the 8-speed does though.

Jason

[larry0071]

Larry,

Where I live it's reasonably flat. I only travel within my home state. There are places that I go where there are some up and down small hills. It's very noticeable downshifting when climbing them. It's more of Hemi rumble you hear than anything else though. I was excited to hear that the 8 speed was going to be in the HDs. I liked it in my 13 Ram 1500. One thing I have seen on these forums is people talking about transmission temps. Usually it's the Ford guys. I'm not knocking Fords just to be clear but I've seen a few posts where folks were seeing their tranny temps running around 240F. Sounds like that might just be where the Fords run. Loaded or unloaded, my 3500 ALWAYS runs between 168F and 170F. Gives me a bit of relief knowing that even though it's shifting often going up and down the hills, my temps stay low.

2500 is the most popular HD size class here in my state. I personally chose to go 3500 because the license tabs cost me $136/yr. The same 2500 model would be well over $600. The savings alone just in license was worth the jump to the 3500. I've got all kinds of extra payload now as well if I wanted to go bigger or haul more. It just made sense for me. If I upgrade to a new HD I will definitely get another 3500. I also will get another gas engine. I would like to go 4.10s next time but I think the only way to get that is by going DRW and I don't want that. I've got some time to think about what I want to do. For now, I am satisfied with the current setup. I would like to see how the 8-speed does though.

Jason

You can get that 4.10 hear set, but it's rare as hens teeth. I'm thinking that too get the truck with that gear and appointed how you specifically would like to have it, you'll need to special order. But then... With the 8 speed.... Do you need it? The first gear ratio on this 8 speed makes up for that gear set when pulling out, and yet let's you have tighter spaced shifts and a slightly higher overdrive. I'm really happy so far with my 3.73/8 speed transmission. I would loan it to you if you lived nearby.

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[jasonl78]

Larry, from what I see Ram changed axle options for 2020. You can get 4.10s in a 2019 3500 SRW. In 2020 the only way to get 4.10s is to go DRW. I custom ordered my current truck and would do it again. I'd like to try 4.10s mated with an 8 speed to see what it's like. My current truck is only rated to tow 12,320 lbs. Going with 4.10s ups that by 3,000 lbs. I have relatives with bigger campers so having more tow capability would be nice. Then mate it with the 8 speed and you've got a pretty good setup. Curious what's coming for 2021!