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03-31-2023, 03:03 PM #21
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Lew is probably right, but I did a measurement of the spring eyelet to wider-leaf area ..
And I thought that there could eventually be some interference with the corner of the hanger (maybe from too much bushing wear).
On my stock springs, there was some scuffing from the hanger on the spring - probably from when I took it on some questionable dirt roads and got some lateral load.
So I asked the guy installing the springs if he'd chamfer the hanger corner a little to add some extra clearance.
It just gave me a little piece of mind ...Last edited by jjbbrewer; 03-31-2023 at 03:14 PM.
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04-01-2023, 02:45 PM #22
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I just upgraded from 4 leaf 4K springs to 5 leaf 6k springs, I had one of the OEM springs fail while I was on the interstate. Not pleasant. While I was at it I upgraded to the MORyde CRE3000 and heavy duty shackles. The difference is vast when compared side by side. I have yet to tow with the new springs but I will tell you the sway I was experiencing before was very noticeable and the suck back from big rigs was difficult. I initially attributed this to a new tow vehicle which was lighter, however seeing how worn my springs were I believe they are the culprit. I got all my parts from etrailer.com good prices and fast delivery. I will look into American made next time now that I know there is a custom option. The springs I ordered were of course Chinese. I also will be very diligent with my greasing given how deformed the bolts were and my lack of greasing before.
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2019 312 BHTS, MORyde CRE300, five leaf 6k leafsprings , MORyde heavy duty shackles.
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04-01-2023, 05:11 PM #23
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Lippert put 3000 lbs springs and v clips on my 2014 303.
No problems, no cost rides good.
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04-11-2023, 06:03 PM #24
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Hey, I’m curious how your install went? These 6 leaf 3500 pound springs I got that were custom American made are legit! I just started as it looks like the MORryde 4000 I got is not compatible and I am going to have to return it. Did all the measurements, double checked with one of there reps and what do you know, put the first spring on and it doesn’t work with it. Anyway, you state you went from a 4 leaf 4K to a 5 leaf 6 K. I believe your 4 leafs should have been rated higher than 4K, no? Have you towed it after going to the higher rated springs? I’m starting to worry this upgrade of mine may cause it to be too stiff but the truth is, I don’t think I’ll even know either way when I’m going down the highway.
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04-11-2023, 06:17 PM #25
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04-11-2023, 06:21 PM #26
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You weren’t kidding about these Alcan springs being better quality. My goodness, they are heavy duty! So I put the first one on today. Long story but I had to stop after discovering the MORryde All Trek 4000 I ordered isn’t compatible. I took all the measurements, double checked with one of there reps and here we are 🤦**♂️ Anyhow, I noticed you have a Momentum anc looking at the pictures you posted of the Alcan springs installed, it looks like you have the 6 leaf? I’m starting to second guess myself and worry these may cause the ride to be to stiff because it was a pain in the butt to get that first one on. The others I ended up returning to E-Trailer were easy to put on and take off. You could tell they were not good quality and compared to these Alcan springs, wow, what a difference! Lew did tell me they were rated for 3500 lbs and from what I have researched, a lot of people have done this upgrade and for the better. I’m just wondering why mine would be the same number of leafs as yours when you have a much heavier unit? Were yours rated for 4K or higher? I’m just hoping Lew was being honest with me and that these are just some serious heavy duty springs. This is my first time doing any of this and so I don’t have anything to compare it to from experience.
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04-12-2023, 06:17 AM #27
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Yep, there's a noticeable difference between these and any other springs I've bought from standard trailer suppliers.
That's a bummer - especially after you have everything already apart. Ugh!! I have the CRE3000 on mine and everything fits. Can you describe what isn't compatible - I'm really curious.
Mine are indeed rated at 4K. Just a guess, even though they have the same number of leafs, they might have different thicknesses to get the different spring rate. If you want, I'll take my calipers over to my rig and measure the thicknesses of mine so we can compare.signature
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04-12-2023, 08:09 AM #28
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Once I put the first of my new springs on, it was apparent the equalizer would not fit. I lowered the spring, raised it as you do to try and position it but unfortunately, it’s not going to work. I thought maybe it was the new spring so I put one of my old ones back on and same thing. I must have messed up somewhere when taking the measurements when going through the qualifier MORryde provides although I did double check all my calculations and even went over each step with one of there reps before ordering. I sent them (MORryde) an email earlier and am going to follow up with a phone call in a bit to see what they say. I ordered the All Trek 4000 TG2-35 so for the 35” wheelbase. I am trying to post some pictures to show what I mean but am not seeing an option how to do so.
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04-12-2023, 08:23 AM #29
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Thank you for expanding on the problem. It does sound like the equalizer was for the wrong axle spacing.
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04-12-2023, 09:08 AM #30
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