Ford Owners Please Help!

[A.Texas.Yankee]

How much different is the ride of a 450 vs 350 DRW?

450 is noticeably stiffer. The commercial steel tires do not have much give in them. It's by no means a deal breaker, though.

Full Timing Family
2021 Momentum 395MS-R
2021 Ford F450 King Ranch

[huntindog]

I'd go with the 3.55 gears. I have them in my 2013 F350 and have no issues towing our 12,000 toy hauler in the mountain west.

I have not done the math. But one needs to account for any differences in tire height between the 350-450 trucks to figure out if the same gear ratios would equal the same results. And just to muddy the water a little more, the 450 will weigh more, so it may be beneficial to gear it a little lower than a lighter 350, to get the same performance.

[The_Lovells]

Ah…the 450 I looked at was 4786lb payload, decked out Platinum. The 1200 diff was from a Ford brochure, but it’s so hard to know what they used to come up with those numbers, you could easily be exactly right. Anyone have a 350 CCLB dually 6.7 diesel Platinum payload number?

I have a 2021 F350DRW fully loaded Lariat, if that will help. Towing ~10,000 lbs with a 4:10 the take off from the red lights are amazing, you can and will beat most traffic if you choose to. I get 17 MPG not towing and 10-11 Towing. The N.C Mountains with 8% grades and switchbacks are not an issue at all and are easily overcome. Payload is 5256lbs.

[wireslv]

I would have liked to have gone with an F-450, but they capped the GVWR on that truck such that the payload capacity is 1200lbs less than an F-350.

FWIW my F450 Lariat with every possible option except the moonroof has a stickered payload of 4844.

My advice to anyone trying to make a decision between the F350 dually and F450 is " GET - THE - 450!!! ". The advantage of having the wide-track front end's turning radius can't be overstated. My prior truck was an F350 SRW short bed, and the F450 is easier to maneuver than the F350 was. The brakes are also noticeably better too (larger swept area/pads).

If you plan on a lot of driving while unloaded there are a few downsides to consider though. You can't air down the commercial tires so the unloaded ride will be stiffer. And the 450 is only available with 4:30 gears, so unloaded highway mileage will suffer. When you're hooked up and loaded though it's awesome.

[LMagelitz]

FWIW my F450 Lariat with every possible option except the moonroof has a stickered payload of 4844.

My advice to anyone trying to make a decision between the F350 dually and F450 is " GET - THE - 450!!! ". The advantage of having the wide-track front end's turning radius can't be overstated. My prior truck was an F350 SRW short bed, and the F450 is easier to maneuver than the F350 was. The brakes are also noticeably better too (larger swept area/pads).

If you plan on a lot of driving while unloaded there are a few downsides to consider though. You can't air down the commercial tires so the unloaded ride will be stiffer. And the 450 is only available with 4:30 gears, so unloaded highway mileage will suffer. When you're hooked up and loaded though it's awesome.

I’ve read enough over the weekend, I’m switching to a 450 tomorrow…

[SilverGhostrider]

Larry, we are going with a King Ranch as well. Nice choice! Pam

[LMagelitz]

Ford dually orders are taking 6 months if ordered now.
If ordering Granger Ford in IA https://www.grangerford.com/ will order for 2% below invoice and Chapman Ford in PA will order at 4% below invoice. https://www.chapmanfordhorsham.com/

@Jerryr you saved me $6,404 with your post. Local dealers are stubbornly at MSRP to MSRP+$10k. I chose Granger, given where I am.
If our paths ever cross, I owe you a beer!
Much appreciated, friend.

[Keebler]

I’ve read enough over the weekend, I’m switching to a 450 tomorrow…

Right choice! This from a 350 owner.

By the way, my sticker reads Payload = 5293; that is a 350 Platinum dually.

[Pacsteel]

This is a very interesting thread, as I also looking to upgrade my truck to a dually. But I think the 450 is overkill.

[Pacsteel]

The 2022 6.7L F350 DRW only offers the 3:55 & 4.10 rear end rations.

Chris[/QUOTE]

This is very interesting as I am looking at this particular truck and it say it has a 3.73 gear ratio in the Mechanical tab.

https://www.lakewoodchev.com/invento...w3dtxnec03656/

Maybe it's wrong.