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    Quote Originally Posted by maddog View Post
    I have a 2016 Reflection 303RLS and just bought a 2021 GMC 3/4 ton crew cab. I took it to the scales and think I am within my limits but getting close.

    My allowable Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) is 11,300 lbs and with my truck and trailer on the scale, my truck is weighing in at 10,660 pounds leaving me only 640 pounds for additional gear/passengers in the truck.

    My trucks Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating (RGAWR) is 6,600 pounds and with the trailer hooked up the rear axle is weighing in at 5,880 leaving me 720 under that rating.

    I estimate my trailer had about 1/3 of the water tank full and about 1-1/2 full bottles of propane. With a couple small Honda 2000 generators added, full water, and some more gear/food (which I was pretty full with firewood, gear, and pantry stocked) I think I would still be within my tow ratings. That being said, I have noticed a little more bouncing up and down going down the highway, mostly on poor roads. My 2006 3/4 ton Silverado extened cab did not seem to do that.... not sure if that is due to the longer wheel base?? Think I am going to look into some air bags.... any thoughts or recommendations on that would be welcome.

    Attached are my scale readings and the original weights of the camper off the assembly line.
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    Diesel or Gas engine? Guessing Diesel?

    I have a 2022 Chevy 2500 LTZ 4X4 6.6D w/ally - our numbers are close, but mine numbers are a tick higher: GCWR 27,500, Gooseneck 18,500, Payload 3268, etc.

    Wonder what changed between 2021 or 2022 or what's the difference between a GMC vs Chevy?

    I spent time trying to find the "heaviest 3/4 ton" as I could find. Most one tons I found were within 200-230 lbs of the 3/4 ton I bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspbrad View Post
    Diesel or Gas engine? Guessing Diesel?

    I have a 2022 Chevy 2500 LTZ 4X4 6.6D w/ally - our numbers are close, but mine numbers are a tick higher: GCWR 27,500, Gooseneck 18,500, Payload 3268, etc.

    Wonder what changed between 2021 or 2022 or what's the difference between a GMC vs Chevy?

    I spent time trying to find the "heaviest 3/4 ton" as I could find. Most one tons I found were within 200-230 lbs of the 3/4 ton I bought.
    Is that 3268 from your door sticker or manual?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NB Canada View Post
    Is that 3268 from your door sticker or manual?


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    I pull my 2021 303rls with a 2021 Silverado 2500hd Duramax. It pulls it great and is within its payload capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rgpracer View Post
    After all the post about pullers and campers.....i was just curious, since i have a 2020 Ram 2500 with Cummins goung to be pulling a new 303, just whom out there pulls a 303 with a 3/4 truck of anykind, and what do you think?

    Lol......my wife is laughing at me that next.....i will want a 3500. I told her that the 3/4 ton is quite capable and i won't be trading up in puller.

    Thanks
    I have been following this thread waiting to read if you got your answer.
    This type of question always seems to just muddy things up even more for folks that are wondering the same thing because the stickers will not always match up.
    IMO going to a 3500 will only reduce ride quality and maybe reduce TV weight capacity these newer Ram trucks are really not far apart in torque and ability to tow. That is the fly in the ointment, older versus newer models of the same same vehicle. Is this a work truck or an every day driver? Bigger for work and just right for everyday driver.

    Using my set up as an example of why things can get confusing;
    Mfg. sticker: Front GVWR 5200 lbs., Rear GVWR 6340, Ford GVWR states for my vehicle 10000 lbs. right on the sticker. The numbers don’t add up! And throw in the tire payload sticker and that won’t add up either. It comes down to which set of numbers will you what to see and no one is incorrect.

    For me it comes down to what is the actual weight coming to bare on the axels and is it inside the total GVWR of each individual unit TV and or TT.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skilletface View Post
    I have been following this thread waiting to read if you got your answer.
    This type of question always seems to just muddy things up even more for folks that are wondering the same thing because the stickers will not always match up.
    IMO going to a 3500 will only reduce ride quality and maybe reduce TV weight capacity these newer Ram trucks are really not far apart in torque and ability to tow. That is the fly in the ointment, older versus newer models of the same same vehicle. Is this a work truck or an every day driver? Bigger for work and just right for everyday driver.

    Using my set up as an example of why things can get confusing;
    Mfg. sticker: Front GVWR 5200 lbs., Rear GVWR 6340, Ford GVWR states for my vehicle 10000 lbs. right on the sticker. The numbers don’t add up! And throw in the tire payload sticker and that won’t add up either. It comes down to which set of numbers will you what to see and no one is incorrect.

    For me it comes down to what is the actual weight coming to bare on the axels and is it inside the total GVWR of each individual unit TV and or TT.Click image for larger version. 

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    Thanks Skillet, yea, a little confusing.
    It is a "daily" driver......i actually drove the 2020 Chevy/Duramax 2500....it rode nicer, payload was more and on and on and on.
    I like my Ram, really I do, and my cummi s pulls awesome.
    Thanks for the reply
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    Everyone:
    I know this has been talked about, but I’m still undecided. As mentioned in a previous comment I’ve had no problem pulling my 303 with my 2015 Ram 2500 diesel. With that said, I am ready to make the jump to a 3500. I know I’m always on the edge with payload but seem to be doing OK. The dealership completed a worksheet for a 2022 Ram 3500 diesel SRW Laramie Crew cab short bed 6.7 I6 HO Turbo with the Aisin AS69RC HO Transmission. I’m asking myself is the Aisin Trans with the HO diesel necessary or just the standard Cummins diesel with the standard transmission or would the gas model be as good for my trailer and purposes. Besides for saving some money, and for GAS mileage. We aren’t full timers but camp often when the Utah weather permits. I believe the payload with gas would be better. I can’t seem to get a straight answer or find it online what the payload for the above mentioned rams would exactly be. They quoted $80,000 for the HO Cummins Ram and $46,000 for my trade-in. The 46,000 could change by the time the new truck came in. I guess I’m looking for someone to push me on which of the 3 above options is the best to go with. I’m sure most would say the HO turbo. Again thinking of the gas mileage or maybe stay with what I have. Thanks for any comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Glogowsky View Post
    Everyone:
    I know this has been talked about, but I’m still undecided. As mentioned in a previous comment I’ve had no problem pulling my 303 with my 2015 Ram 2500 diesel. With that said, I am ready to make the jump to a 3500. I know I’m always on the edge with payload but seem to be doing OK. The dealership completed a worksheet for a 2022 Ram 3500 diesel SRW Laramie Crew cab short bed 6.7 I6 HO Turbo with the Aisin AS69RC HO Transmission. I’m asking myself is the Aisin Trans with the HO diesel necessary or just the standard Cummins diesel with the standard transmission or would the gas model be as good for my trailer and purposes. Besides for saving some money, and for GAS mileage. We aren’t full timers but camp often when the Utah weather permits. I believe the payload with gas would be better. I can’t seem to get a straight answer or find it online what the payload for the above mentioned rams would exactly be. They quoted $80,000 for the HO Cummins Ram and $46,000 for my trade-in. The 46,000 could change by the time the new truck came in. I guess I’m looking for someone to push me on which of the 3 above options is the best to go with. I’m sure most would say the HO turbo. Again thinking of the gas mileage or maybe stay with what I have. Thanks for any comments.

    Lance
    I am same boat but have decided that HO will pull easier, hence gas millage will be a skosh better.
    I will do a 3500, but, now considering the 3500 Denali with Duramax.....desicions desicions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rgpracer View Post
    I am same boat but have decided that HO will pull easier, hence gas millage will be a skosh better.
    I will do a 3500, but, now considering the 3500 Denali with Duramax.....desicions desicions.
    Does the 3500 GM/Chevy have a higher payload than a 3500 Ram? Does anybody know if there is a significant higher payload in a 3500 vs 2500? I have been contemplating upgrading my 2016 Duramax, primarily because I want to get away from the dreaded CP4 fuel pump, but that's a topic for another thread... came across a 2021 Ram 2500 Laramie with the Cummins today but it only has a payload of 1991 lbs.... that's just too low, and 336 lbs less than my current Duramax.
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