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12-29-2022, 07:19 AM #31
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The trailer brakes are designed to stop the trailer. If they are doing their job, the truck just has to stop itself. In fact, if the trailer brakes aren't adequate and the majority of the stopping force is provided by the tow vehicle, the chances of jackknifing are greatly increased. "Over-trucking" is no substitute for properly working trailer brakes. The most frequent weak point in tow vehicle specifications is payload, not brakes.
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12-29-2022, 09:05 AM #32
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One thing to remember is that all of the payload will not be on the rear axle. If loaded properly that 300lbs that you lost would end up on the front axle with some of the load in front of the year axle. The gooseneck in my 3500 RAM is 2" in front of the rear axle to allow for some weight added to the front axle when pulling with the goose neck. The pucks also put the weight slightly in front of the axle for the same reason. This is one reason why a long bed can have the same rear axle rating as a short bed yet have 500 lbs more payload. The longer bed allows more weight in front of the rear axle so more weight goes to the front axle giving you more payload.
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12-29-2022, 09:09 AM #33
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12-29-2022, 09:35 AM #34
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Robin & John
2020 Ram 3500 LB SRW 4WD Crew Laramie 6.7HO Aisin, 55gal Titan
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12-29-2022, 10:01 AM #35
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FWIW, I have the Ram puck system with the B&W hitch and a long bed, and my steering axle increased by 200 lbs., when the drive axle increased by 3100 lbs.
It would seem odd that the steer axle won't increase a little if the hitch is on axle center-line, or a little forward. Maybe if it's behind the axle center-line a touch, the steer axle wouldn't change. Just a thought. All of mine have been slightly in front of the axle and they all increased the steer axle a couple hundred pounds or so.Last edited by Hoopy Frood; 12-29-2022 at 10:04 AM.
Howard and Peggy
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12-29-2022, 10:20 AM #36
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Robin & John
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12-29-2022, 10:36 AM #37
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I certainly wouldn't be concerned in the slightest. A couple hundred pounds on the front axle is no biggie.
Howard and Peggy
2019 Momentum 351M, and 2018 RAM Cummins dually 6-speed.
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12-29-2022, 11:52 AM #38
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Rob & Barb
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12-29-2022, 03:26 PM #39
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time will tell
Still missing the point the 80/20 rule (not because of F150`s, that statment is out of left field and 100% wrong) is the figure that will more than likely keep you out of trouble. And dosen`t not matter what you apply it to it will work. So walk on the wild side, your money ,your life just say away from me.
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12-29-2022, 03:31 PM #40
If I used the 80/20 "rule" in trucking ny dad would have never made money.
If I told dispatch Im never taking off of 80% of Max Gross Takeoff weight in an Airbus 321 Neo, Id never go anywhere. Or have a job.2019 GD Momentum 397TH
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