2022 GD Reflection 150 260RD Fridge Walking Around

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2022 GD Reflection 150 260RD.

Anyone had issues with and found a solution for strengthening the wall/securing the 12V Furrion fridge?

Had TSB from GD addressed by purchasing dealer, and same issue has not resolved itself as result is now worse than before. Appears that the fix was to install a pair of furring strips on left and right bottom edge to keep fridge from walking L-R, but doesn’t control forward/rearward movement.

Have been in touch with GD TS again along with dealer. Looking like another return to service is in near future. It appears to be to be a mistake or lack of engineering design on securing the fridge.

To my mechanical (Retired ASE Master Tech) way of thinking, issue is fridge is moving forward/backward when vehicle is in motion. A pair of vertically placed brackets that are secured to left and right walls hold fridge in place. While the side to right of fridge is solid as it is part of cabinet/pantry, the left side is simply a small 1 x with veneer panel (on each side). Not solid enough and left wall with hinge has now separated from veneer by pulling all the staples free. Top of left wall doesn’t does not have a secure attachment point at top (only veneer side held in place by panel/shear). I tried to explain that this would be the same as a door jam being attached to a side wall stud that was only nailed to floor and not to/ no header at top. Every time you would open the door you are putting pressure on the jamb and basically floating stud (does this explanation make sense?) Really looks like a stouter vertical stud with top plate (top of slide box??) securement is needed, possibly with some horizontal perlings along with some blocking/wedging at top/rear of fridge to keep it in place.

Best explanation from a movement prospective is that when slide is out for use, entire slide along with drive as oriented slightly downward towards outside and mass along with gravity helps keep it in place. But, when stowed, fridge is no longer leaning outbound and is actually leaning inboard (against brackets). With setup as images show, I can easily rock top of fridge inwards even beyond what is broken loose. With slide out, I need quite a bit of effort to accomplish the same result.
I’ve attached a few pictures for reference and welcome any input on design improvement.

thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Sincerely,

David
 

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I have a similar problem and my fridge gets looser every time I pull the camper. Only having it anchored from the bottom only is a poor design. I contacted GD and asked that it be fixed under warranty as it will eventually rip out the screws that anchor it to floor (you can see them pulling away when you rock the fridge back and forth). They asked that I get the dealer involved, which I did. Dealer sent in pics and a warranty claim, which GD denied. My dealer said they will fix it anyways (they are actually one of the rare good dealers out there) and deal with GD later or eat the cost if they can't get anything. They are working on it as we speak. I will post pics when I get it back and see how they went about securing it from the top to help stabilize it.
 
We did have an issue with the wall next to the frig on our 260RD, it was fixed under warranty and we haven't had any problems since.
 
Downsc123, my exact fear is that he only secure points break loose and then we are left with fridge and adjacent counter/floor damage. In talking with some other GD owners, it appears one of the issues at hand is that there is not enough floor support on front edge and when slide is in the actual floor is dipping down. I was wondering if some sort of slide materials/accessory could be added to the front leading edge along full length of slide and allow better support with inside floor?

Sincerely,

David
 
Downsc123, my exact fear is that he only secure points break loose and then we are left with fridge and adjacent counter/floor damage. In talking with some other GD owners, it appears one of the issues at hand is that there is not enough floor support on front edge and when slide is in the actual floor is dipping down. I was wondering if some sort of slide materials/accessory could be added to the front leading edge along full length of slide and allow better support with inside floor?

Sincerely,

David

That was my fear as well - with the only support being at the bottom (and they are not that beefy), its a matter of when they will rip out completely. When I took delivery last August, the fridge felt tight and secure - over time I noticed it loosen up to the point now that you can actually see the hardware move and flex the slide floor when you rock it back and forth. Root cause is no side or top support so when you are going down the road, all the energy transfers to the anchors at the bottom. I hope my dealer finds a good way to secure the top of the fridge (which is the fix here IMO).
 
We did have an issue with the wall next to the frig on our 260RD, it was fixed under warranty and we haven't had any problems since.

any idea or pictures/description of what the repair involved? Warranty tech at GD is claiming no issue.

Sincerely,

David
 
any idea or pictures/description of what the repair involved? Warranty tech at GD is claiming no issue.

Sincerely,

David

Sorry, no pictures. The wall between the frig and the recliner had come loose and was damaged. It looks like the repair involved removing the recliner and beefing up the connection to the floor.
 
No worries! Thanks none the less for the feedback.

This reinforces my idea on what was needed originally in failed design (strength of wall/support for 12V Furrion). In looking at the wall in mine, I could see using a much beefier end stud, but there is adjoining light switch for slide accent lights that is right next to current trim. Also, I am still thinking that the forward/backward rocking of fridge along with RV in motion is cause of strain. Really need some way to secure the rear of fridge to floor, along with stabilizing any ability for side to side motion.

Sincerely,

David
 
Also, I am still thinking that the forward/backward rocking of fridge along with RV in motion is cause of strain.

Hey David, adding Sumo springs greatly reduced the rocking in my coach. They took about an hour to install and I consider them one of the best investments I've made.
 
Hey David, adding Sumo springs greatly reduced the rocking in my coach. They took about an hour to install and I consider them one of the best investments I've made.

I'll look into those. Look interesting. Assuming you got (2) two kits with dual axles?

Would really like to get to the source of design flaw and repair before moving on. I have seen some other posts on 260RD and slide wall and slide issues, Makes me wonder if I'm not looking at a bigger issue with frame flexing??

Sincerely,

David
 
I'll look into those. Look interesting. Assuming you got (2) two kits with dual axles?

Would really like to get to the source of design flaw and repair before moving on. I have seen some other posts on 260RD and slide wall and slide issues, Makes me wonder if I'm not looking at a bigger issue with frame flexing??

Sincerely,

David

Yes, two kits.
 
Downsc123,

did you ever get a chance to take any pictures of the completed repair?

Sincerely,

David

Went to pick it up last week and noticed that my small roof leak that was also getting fixed under warranty wasn't fully fixed - it will be ready tomorrow so I will go get it Saturday and get pics posted - from what I saw while I was there, they installed a piece of wood vertically (from front to back) and then a horizontal piece from the left side of the side of the slide wall to the middle of the fridge (can't go all the way across horizontally as there is a raise piece on the top of the fridge). When I rocked it it seemed to be more more stable but not perfect. Time will tell how long it will last.
 
2022 GD Reflection 150 260RD.

Anyone had issues with and found a solution for strengthening the wall/securing the 12V Furrion fridge?

Had TSB from GD addressed by purchasing dealer, and same issue has not resolved itself as result is now worse than before. Appears that the fix was to install a pair of furring strips on left and right bottom edge to keep fridge from walking L-R, but doesn’t control forward/rearward movement.

Have been in touch with GD TS again along with dealer. Looking like another return to service is in near future. It appears to be to be a mistake or lack of engineering design on securing the fridge.

To my mechanical (Retired ASE Master Tech) way of thinking, issue is fridge is moving forward/backward when vehicle is in motion. A pair of vertically placed brackets that are secured to left and right walls hold fridge in place. While the side to right of fridge is solid as it is part of cabinet/pantry, the left side is simply a small 1 x with veneer panel (on each side). Not solid enough and left wall with hinge has now separated from veneer by pulling all the staples free. Top of left wall doesn’t does not have a secure attachment point at top (only veneer side held in place by panel/shear). I tried to explain that this would be the same as a door jam being attached to a side wall stud that was only nailed to floor and not to/ no header at top. Every time you would open the door you are putting pressure on the jamb and basically floating stud (does this explanation make sense?) Really looks like a stouter vertical stud with top plate (top of slide box??) securement is needed, possibly with some horizontal perlings along with some blocking/wedging at top/rear of fridge to keep it in place.

Best explanation from a movement prospective is that when slide is out for use, entire slide along with drive as oriented slightly downward towards outside and mass along with gravity helps keep it in place. But, when stowed, fridge is no longer leaning outbound and is actually leaning inboard (against brackets). With setup as images show, I can easily rock top of fridge inwards even beyond what is broken loose. With slide out, I need quite a bit of effort to accomplish the same result.
I’ve attached a few pictures for reference and welcome any input on design improvement.

thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Sincerely,

David

Pictures are very telling. The used the wall framing to hold a very heavy appliance in an opening, but used staples to secure the framing.

My suggestion is to maybe redo the opening a bit to allow a square secured frame on the top and bottom that is secured to roof structure and floor structure. Roll it in secure with wood the structure with screws and then trim it out.

Bill
 
Went to pick it up last week and noticed that my small roof leak that was also getting fixed under warranty wasn't fully fixed - it will be ready tomorrow so I will go get it Saturday and get pics posted - from what I saw while I was there, they installed a piece of wood vertically (from front to back) and then a horizontal piece from the left side of the side of the slide wall to the middle of the fridge (can't go all the way across horizontally as there is a raise piece on the top of the fridge). When I rocked it it seemed to be more more stable but not perfect. Time will tell how long it will last.

looks like I won't be getting pics for a while - dealer just was not happy with the roof so we got grand design to authorize a complete roof replacement so they will be keeping it for the winter.
 
looks like I won't be getting pics for a while - dealer just was not happy with the roof so we got grand design to authorize a complete roof replacement so they will be keeping it for the winter.

Well hopefully that is good news on GD approving a warranty repair. Please feel free to update with any news in future. I am heading to drop off my rig tomorrow for dealer to attempt wall repair again. Will update with progress on solution once I get the rig back. I purchased a pair of air bladders to shim under the inside floor of the slide and a tie down strap for transport to dealer (was not sure if fridge stability)

Sincerely,

David
 
UGH!!

I need to check out my 2024 Reflection travel trailer that has the same 16cf refrigerator. I do have a strap across the two doors to keep them from opening. I have only pulled it from the dealer to my house and then to storage.
 
2022 GD Reflection 150 260RD.

Anyone had issues with and found a solution for strengthening the wall/securing the 12V Furrion fridge?

Had TSB from GD addressed by purchasing dealer, and same issue has not resolved itself as result is now worse than before. Appears that the fix was to install a pair of furring strips on left and right bottom edge to keep fridge from walking L-R, but doesn’t control forward/rearward movement.

Have been in touch with GD TS again along with dealer. Looking like another return to service is in near future. It appears to be to be a mistake or lack of engineering design on securing the fridge.

To my mechanical (Retired ASE Master Tech) way of thinking, issue is fridge is moving forward/backward when vehicle is in motion. A pair of vertically placed brackets that are secured to left and right walls hold fridge in place. While the side to right of fridge is solid as it is part of cabinet/pantry, the left side is simply a small 1 x with veneer panel (on each side). Not solid enough and left wall with hinge has now separated from veneer by pulling all the staples free. Top of left wall doesn’t does not have a secure attachment point at top (only veneer side held in place by panel/shear). I tried to explain that this would be the same as a door jam being attached to a side wall stud that was only nailed to floor and not to/ no header at top. Every time you would open the door you are putting pressure on the jamb and basically floating stud (does this explanation make sense?) Really looks like a stouter vertical stud with top plate (top of slide box??) securement is needed, possibly with some horizontal perlings along with some blocking/wedging at top/rear of fridge to keep it in place.

Best explanation from a movement prospective is that when slide is out for use, entire slide along with drive as oriented slightly downward towards outside and mass along with gravity helps keep it in place. But, when stowed, fridge is no longer leaning outbound and is actually leaning inboard (against brackets). With setup as images show, I can easily rock top of fridge inwards even beyond what is broken loose. With slide out, I need quite a bit of effort to accomplish the same result.
I’ve attached a few pictures for reference and welcome any input on design improvement.

thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Sincerely,

David

David, I had the same issue / damage on my 2022 260 RD. The wall between the couch and fridge, and the cabinet frame to the right of the fridge broke. GD fixed it in a warranty claim. GD also sent us 4 more brackets, to which we installed. I now have 6 brackets holding the fridge in place. I also cut a 4-inch swimming float into 4 6-inch pieces and put them between the top of the fridge and the ceiling of the slide. I can't get the fridge to move with a lot of force. It is solid. That rocking was why we all had food on the RV floor during our trips. I am still going to put my suction cup device on the front of the fridge for good measure.
 
12V Furrion Moving Around

SteverinoDC1,

we had been back to the dealer (thru GD) a couple of times on issue with same result of excessive movement/wall breaking loose.

On 3rd attempt, I sat down with dealers lead tech and service advisor to discuss a correct repair. Tech got approval from GD to rebuild the side wall to 2 x 4, along with some aluminum bracing (in wall) and also added a rear support to keep fridge from walking backwards (as opening is deeper than counter depth design of fridge). So far, after several trips OOT, things seem to be working properly and I have not seen any signs of loosening!

On separate note on Furrion 12v fridge, we did have an issue with 12V disconnect key coming out while in storage and fridge blew both fuses, which are for reference located on top of unit (see image). There (on our unit) not any rearward fuses as power cord (Romex/SO) come from side wall and runs to top of fridge). Assuming the issue was due to trickle voltage (from solar) still reaching fridge and undervoltage created issue.

Our RV is slightly over 2 years old now, and I will be looking to replace the current 100aH lead acid battery which appears to be weakening with a larger lithium unit. I checked, and the installed Furrion MPT is 50A, but it appears that the installed power converter/charger behind the oven is a LA model and wont support Lithium. Will need to research for a replacement.

Looking at ideas for a larger Lithium battery (?) for replacement. We do not do much in the way of boondocking, so extended off grid use is not a huge need (at moment) but having extra capacity along with reserve for travel days would be a plus.

Also, will need to research future add (based on documentation of Furrion MPT) additional solar panels.

Sincerely,

David
 

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