303RLS CAT Scale Results Surprise

[MN-Mark]

As we were heading out for the Memorial Day weekend, I drove my rig over the CAT scale for the first time. The truck had full fuel, wife, dog, packed as it normally is when we go camping. The trailer had empty Black and Grey tanks and 10 gallons in the Fresh Water tank.

The surprising thing to me was that the front axle weighed the same with and without the trailer hitched up. Is this normal? I would have thought that at least some of the pin weight would have gone onto the front axle.

At any rate, I am below the capacity of my truck, so all is good.

Mark

 

[lineman1234]

Take a look at where your hitch is in the bed for the heck of it. I have a 2024 3500 gm regular cab/2 door, obviously a long bed, and a friend has a 2024 gmc 3500 4 door short bed, not sure the length, but my 5ver hitch sits more over the axel, vs his is behind a by a few inches.

 

[Steven@147]

As we were heading out for the Memorial Day weekend, I drove my rig over the CAT scale for the first time. The truck had full fuel, wife, dog, packed as it normally is when we go camping. The trailer had empty Black and Grey tanks and 10 gallons in the Fresh Water tank.

The surprising thing to me was that the front axle weighed the same with and without the trailer hitched up. Is this normal? I would have thought that at least some of the pin weight would have gone onto the front axle.

At any rate, I am below the capacity of my truck, so all is good.

Mark

Mark, If anything I would have expected your front axle weight to decrease a little. Even if your companion is set up so weight is over the rear axle.
Then again according to the numbers your pin weight is 2300 lbs which is 19-20% of the campers GVWR (11,995) right about where you want to be. Actually very light for the truck you have. Your camper axle weight is 8700#.
So in the end I think its because you have more truck than your camper needs, that's great!

For our truck, hitched up our front axle weight decreases by 150 lbs, then again our pin weight is 3600#. Our camper is heavy.

 

[Canyonlight]

As we were heading out for the Memorial Day weekend, I drove my rig over the CAT scale for the first time. The truck had full fuel, wife, dog, packed as it normally is when we go camping. The trailer had empty Black and Grey tanks and 10 gallons in the Fresh Water tank.

The surprising thing to me was that the front axle weighed the same with and without the trailer hitched up. Is this normal? I would have thought that at least some of the pin weight would have gone onto the front axle.

At any rate, I am below the capacity of my truck, so all is good.

Mark

Mark - when we weighed our 303 many moons ago there was less than 30 or so lbs different as I recall No surprise as the pin is directly over our truck rear axle.

Dan

 

[traveldawg]

I'm with Steven@147.... Light trailer, heavy truck - relatively speaking. So not much to transfer.

I think GM puts their pin a bit rearward than a Ford, so less gets transferred to the from. Even on my Ford with a pin weight close to 3400 lbs I only get about 40 or 60 lbs on the front.

 

[Second Chance]

Our GMC Sierra short bed (6.5 ft. SRW) would put about 60 extra lbs. on the front axle when hitched. The F350 LB DRW only adds about 40 lbs. to the front axle. As stated, it all depends on where the king pin ends up in the hitch in relation to the rear axle.

Rob

 

[Tom Traveler]

3,600 lbs pin weight, 20 lbs added to the front axle. Our Pullrite slider on a Ram 3500 DRW puts the pin directly over the rear axle when straight. I was also a little surprised the first time I weighed it.

 

[RV2600RB]

3,600 lbs pin weight, 20 lbs added to the front axle. Our Pullrite slider on a Ram 3500 DRW puts the pin directly over the rear axle when straight. I was also a little surprised the first time I weighed it.

Similar experience when we had a fiver using the Pullrite hitch. Pin was right over the rear axle with IS rails bolted in the bed.
Rich

 

[MN-Mark]

Thank you for all of the replies, gentlemen. My kingpin sits directly over the axle or maybe an inch rearward, I will have to look a little closer. I originally bought a one ton truck thinking that I would likely upgrade the 5er someday, hopefully someday soon! In the meantime, as [MENTION=21739]xrated[/MENTION] states, excessive payload is a wonderful thing.

Mark

 

[Wglindsay]

I weighed my 2022 303 in March and there was only a 90 lbs difference.

 

[pppitiful]

I weighed my new to me Reflection 22RK. I have 2017 F250 short bed, Gen-Y gooseneck with the 5” offset. CAT scales showed same front axle weight both hitched and unhitched.

 

[bricknhank]

303RLS question

For whatever reason I can’t read the Cat Scale attachments on this thread. It sounds like it’s more of a front axle/rear axle distribution discussion rather than pin weight. I’m thinking about trading our Reflection 150 270BN for a 303RLS but I’m not sure if it will be too borderline for our truck. I have a 2022 GMC Sierra 2500 SLT CC standard bed (6’-9”) with a Duramax. I’m using a B&W Companion FWH. Max payload: 3213 LBS and max Pin Weight of 2775 LBS. Doing basic math of 20% of the 12K rated GVWR is 2400 LBS on the pin which should leave around 800 LBS for passengers (only the two of us) less the Companion Hitch and cargo. That’s using given numbers not real world numbers. I know that pin weight can vary based on where people store things. Does a 303RLS sound doable with our truck based on the specs that I gave?