A 2021 Model Price, but got the 2020

[Chippy]

Is this a 'thing' in the RV world, or just with Grand Design?

When I went to buy my RV (07/2020), they told me it was the 2021 model... only for me to find out later that its 'a' model, with a 2021 VIN#.
The actual 2021 has more features, of course.

Thanks for any insight into this rather disappointing part of being a new GD-RV Owner.

Updated: I am not mad. Just a 1st time buyer trying to learn about RV things

 

[NB Canada]

Is this a 'thing' in the RV world, or just with Grand Design?

When I went to buy my RV (07/2020), they told me it was the 2021 model... only for me to find out later that its 'a' model, with a 2021 VIN#.
The actual 2021 has more features, of course.

Thanks for any insight into this rather disappointing part of being a new GD-RV Owner.

Are you serious?

Things are added OR deleted all the time

Did you not talk with your dealer about these things you were expecting but were not there?


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

 

[RobWNY]

All over the Grand Design website they have this wording "Because of our commitment to continuous product improvement, Grand Design RV reserves the right to change components, standards, options, specifications, pricing and materials without notice and at any time. Photos may show optional equipment which may not be included in the standard purchase price of the featured unit. Be sure to review current product details with your local dealer before purchasing."

 

[NB Canada]

Other than the one connect,which I have but really don’t care about and would rather have the storage space the controller stole, what else are you mad about?

You likely have a Coleman a/c. Vs the Furrion. Which may be okay I just haven’t had one before
They are new to the industry


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

 

[OurNewEra]

Is this a 'thing' in the RV world, or just with Grand Design?

When I went to buy my RV (07/2020), they told me it was the 2021 model... only for me to find out later that its 'a' model, with a 2021 VIN#.
The actual 2021 has more features, of course.

Thanks for any insight into this rather disappointing part of being a new GD-RV Owner.

My 2021 2970RL was built in June 2020 and we took delivery July 30. Changes our 2021 had were added cubbies next to the bed. Sliding box under the bed.

Things we didn't get - one connect which I'm grateful for. I think August built rigs of our model got the one connect. So we barely, and thankfully, missed the upgrade I don't want anymore 'technology'. We lost the 2 folding dinette chairs. That was a disappointmemt.

Not sure what the more features are. Think they are probably just different features.

We all know there are only two guarantees in life . . .

 

[GeoffnCheri]

Are you happy with the one you bought?

 

[Chippy]

Are you serious?

Things are added OR deleted all the time

Did you not talk with your dealer about these things you were expecting but were not there?


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

Fare enough - things are 'added all the time'.
First time buyers mistake, I guess.

But Ill say this...

As a 1st Time RV Buyer, all we hear is "It's a 2021 model" at the time of sale.
Later, we see the 2021 model of today has new features.

Ultimately, the RV MFG could be finishing the 2020 production for the year, slap a 2021 label on it - and call it a day.
If its the exact same RV as the 2020, Then what makes it a 2021?
It wasn't produced in 2021 and has no 'improved/upgraded features' as the now 2021.

When I go to sell this as a 2021, and you are the buyer, you'll need to figure out which 2021 I am selling vs the other guy selling his 2021
Seems a bit like a challenge to me.

As a first time buyer - I've learned something new.

 

[Chippy]

When I wrote to Grand Design, this was their... excuse.
I do appreciate the reply.

First time buyer, learned something new.

 

[Chippy]

1st, I'm not mad - folks. Disappointed isn't mad.

And you're sort of making my point for me...
My 2021 vs another persons 2021 - how would I know what those differences are?
These 'changes' are model changes, like when you buy a Truck. the 2018 GMS Sierra comes in (3) body types.

Honest mistake on my part for not knowing that RV's come in 'model types' that are not listed anywhere... Thats all.

 

[Chippy]

Fair enough.
This is coming down to "1st Buyers" learning curve.
Buyer Beware...

 

[Chippy]

Oh yea - we love it. And we love RV-ing.

As 1st time RV guy/owner - I'm trying to learn about RV's (operation, maintenance, fixes, functions, etc.) and I enjoy doing that.
I rely on forums like this and other to ask and read/learn.
If I found a note/comment/help about the Make/Model/Year of my RV - I thought I struck gold.
Ultimately thats what lead me to figure out that 2021 doesn't necessarily mean my 2021...

Oh well - 1st time buyer learning curve.

 

[Chippy]

All over the Grand Design website they have this wording "Because of our commitment to continuous product improvement, Grand Design RV reserves the right to change components, standards, options, specifications, pricing and materials without notice and at any time. Photos may show optional equipment which may not be included in the standard purchase price of the featured unit. Be sure to review current product details with your local dealer before purchasing."

Yea - when I asked Grand Design which year my RV was - that referred to this, too.
A lot to read, as a 1st time RV Buyer...

 

[Chippy]

Are you happy with the one you bought?

Oh yea - we love it. And we love RV-ing.

As 1st time RV guy/owner - I'm trying to learn about RV's (operation, maintenance, fixes, functions, etc.) and I enjoy doing that.
I rely on forums like this and other to ask and read/learn. (They have been great.. even this thread..)

If I found a note/comment/help about the Make/Model/Year of my RV - I think I struck gold.
Ultimately that's what lead me to figure out that 2021 doesn't necessarily mean my 2021...

Oh well - 1st time buyer learning curve.

 

[Chippy]

All over the Grand Design website they have this wording "Because of our commitment to continuous product improvement, Grand Design RV reserves the right to change components, standards, options, specifications, pricing and materials without notice and at any time. Photos may show optional equipment which may not be included in the standard purchase price of the featured unit. Be sure to review current product details with your local dealer before purchasing."

When I wrote to Grand Design, this was their answer too
Lots of reading / learning...

I do appreciate the reply.

First time buyer, learned something new.

 

[Chippy]

Other than the one connect,which I have but really don’t care about and would rather have the storage space the controller stole, what else are you mad about?

You likely have a Coleman a/c. Vs the Furrion. Which may be okay I just haven’t had one before
They are new to the industry


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

1st, I'm not mad - folks. Disappointed isn't mad.

And you're sort of making my point for me...
My 2021 vs another persons 2021 - how would I know what those differences are?
These 'changes' are model changes, like when you buy a Truck.
The 2018 GMS Sierra came in (3) body types.

Honest mistake on my part for not knowing that RV's come in 'model types' that are not listed anywhere... Thats all.

 

[cfowler55]

I get you original question I think. Ours was an early production’19. Later in the year they added central vac. A bit different from your situation. When we ordered we were told it would be an ‘18 , so picked up a model year but not the additions. Seems like there were a couple of other minor additions , but after 3 years they’ve kinda slipped my mind. It is a little frustrating not knowing what’s going on until you actually walk into your specific unit. Sorry, but it’s the nature of the beast. Sounds like y’all are pleased overall with your’s , and that’s what’s important. Enjoy it , learn from it, and be happy!
Charlie

 

[Wicked ace]

RV model year changes seem to happen mid winter. My 260RD has a build date of 1/2019 and was titled as a 2019 MY, probably, as I learned, one of the last. Comparing notes with [MENTION=19127]Hunter[/MENTION]70 who had the same model built the same month yet titled as a 2020 MY. A few months later GD started adding more features like a revised interior scheme and exterior graphics along with self leveling. When the pandemic took a foothold it sort of became the wild west both because of consumer demand and parts / equipment shortages. As you have seen, the out that GD and other manufacturers give themselves is the disclaimer you noted. A year and a half ago there were posts of new owners ecstatic they got goodies they didn't expect. As models came off the lines about 9 months ago the tune changed with people posting wondering, same as you what they should or shouldn't expect. If you think something was omitted call GD again and press your dealer asking that the items be installed.

 

[traveldawg]

Is this a 'thing' in the RV world, or just with Grand Design?

When I went to buy my RV (07/2020), they told me it was the 2021 model... only for me to find out later that its 'a' model, with a 2021 VIN#.
The actual 2021 has more features, of course.

Thanks for any insight into this rather disappointing part of being a new GD-RV Owner.

Updated: I am not mad. Just a 1st time buyer trying to learn about RV things

Chippy,
First - welcome to the forum. I see you had a few posts and seem to overall happy with your new Imagine. That's great!

You'll find most people here are happy to help out and offer their experienced insight. So congrats on asking questions and learning. We've all been first-timers; some of us a long time ago, some of us not so long ago. And there is sooooo much to learn.

Anyhow - about your question of the model year "thing". Yes, unfortunately, that is a thing. It is much different than the automotive world and even varies from RV manufacturer to manufacturer. When we ordered our 2018 in January of 2018 it arrived in March of 2018 and got labeled as a 2019 - go figure!!! I have no idea why RV manufacturers need to do that. Since we got what we wanted I never bothered to look at whatever changes came along later in the "model year".

On the bright side I figured that at least it was one year "newer" for resale purposes. Not sure how well that will play out when the time comes to sell though.

 

[Chippy]

Chippy,
First - welcome to the forum. I see you had a few posts and seem to overall happy with your new Imagine. That's great!

You'll find most people here are happy to help out and offer their experienced insight. So congrats on asking questions and learning. We've all been first-timers; some of us a long time ago, some of us not so long ago. And there is sooooo much to learn.

Anyhow - about your question of the model year "thing". Yes, unfortunately, that is a thing. It is much different than the automotive world and even varies from RV manufacturer to manufacturer. When we ordered our 2018 in January of 2018 it arrived in March of 2018 and got labeled as a 2019 - go figure!!! I have no idea why RV manufacturers need to do that. Since we got what we wanted I never bothered to look at whatever changes came along later in the "model year".

On the bright side I figured that at least it was one year "newer" for resale purposes. Not sure how well that will play out when the time comes to sell though.

Thanks, Larry.
I appreciate the feedback & am very impressed w/ your map and all those states you've hit.
We will be 'filling in' 11 of them ourselves.

Take Care

 

[Chippy]

RV model year changes seem to happen mid winter. My 260RD has a build date of 1/2019 and was titled as a 2019 MY, probably, as I learned, one of the last. Comparing notes with [MENTION=19127]Hunter[/MENTION]70 who had the same model built the same month yet titled as a 2020 MY. A few months later GD started adding more features like a revised interior scheme and exterior graphics along with self leveling. When the pandemic took a foothold it sort of became the wild west both because of consumer demand and parts / equipment shortages. As you have seen, the out that GD and other manufacturers give themselves is the disclaimer you noted. A year and a half ago there were posts of new owners ecstatic they got goodies they didn't expect. As models came off the lines about 9 months ago the tune changed with people posting wondering, same as you what they should or shouldn't expect. If you think something was omitted call GD again and press your dealer asking that the items be installed.

I appreciate the feedback. Thanks.