anybody pulling a 17,000 lb Solitude with an F350 7.3 gasser?

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Ford's posted numbers for a SRW F350 say towing and payload fit, but just wondering how the Godzilla really handles a big load. The lighter gas engine definitely helps raise the payload vs the heavier diesel.
Have seen YouTubers pulling up to 15,000 lb with a 7.3 SRW comfortably, but our new rig weighs that empty. I know I should probably just suck it up and buy a diesel dually, but that big gasser takes me back to GTO/SS 396/440 GTX days!
Anyone with 7.3 SRW experience?
Thanks
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HiR9dxvGLY

In case you haven’t seen it, probably best online example of the engine you’ll get. And that pass is no joke. I suspect you’ll hear that there’s a point where both the diesel and dually start to make sense and that most think it’s around 15k lbs, give or take a couple thousand depending on the person.

Hope some people chime in.
 
Ford's posted numbers for a SRW F350 say towing and payload fit, but just wondering how the Godzilla really handles a big load. The lighter gas engine definitely helps raise the payload vs the heavier diesel.
Have seen YouTubers pulling up to 15,000 lb with a 7.3 SRW comfortably, but our new rig weighs that empty. I know I should probably just suck it up and buy a diesel dually, but that big gasser takes me back to GTO/SS 396/440 GTX days!
Anyone with 7.3 SRW experience?
Thanks

Why not get a gas dually? I'm sure the engine is up to towing that much load. Especially with the 10 speed transmission to help get it rolling; the diesel would be better, but I wouldn't shy away from the gasser if that's what you want.

But SRW with that much weight, I wouldn't be happy with that if I was going to do a lot of towing. DRW stinks at most everything except for towing; towing is where it shines and you'll immediately notice a difference (at least I did, coming from a 250 into a 450 of the same model year).
 
My concern with the gas and a Solitude is filling the truck with trailer attached. Some of the Solitudes are pretty big and maneuvering them in a regular gas station might prove to be difficult. If you routinely camp close enough to home where you can drop the trailer at campground and then fill up, no big deal. With diesel you have the truck lanes which was one of the main reasons we got a SRW F350 when we had a Reflection. You can get the 7.3 in the F350 DRW if you think you should get a dually, you'll have to run the numbers and see what's best. Keep in mind, those numbers published by GD are for a dry camper, without batteries and propane tanks as well.
 
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Thanks for posting the question. I too am pondering the same question, 6.7 diesel or 7.3 Godzilla? I'll be watching with interest the input.
 
Anything over 14k is diesel territory for me. Heck, I am towing 11 and I went diesel. Love it!

Bill
 
Ford's posted numbers for a SRW F350 say towing and payload fit, but just wondering how the Godzilla really handles a big load. The lighter gas engine definitely helps raise the payload vs the heavier diesel.
Have seen YouTubers pulling up to 15,000 lb with a 7.3 SRW comfortably, but our new rig weighs that empty. I know I should probably just suck it up and buy a diesel dually, but that big gasser takes me back to GTO/SS 396/440 GTX days!
Anyone with 7.3 SRW experience?
Thanks

While I can’t speak to Ford, I switched from gas to diesel in the Ram primarily for the engine brake and fuel mileage. I live in a very hilly area and absolutely love the engine brake. I don’t believe I will ever hit a break even point cost wise based on mileage alone (service is much more expensive on a diesel) but hope to enjoy the extended life the diesel has to offer.
 
The engine brake is another point for going diesel. From what I have seen the Godzilla downshifts like crazy descending a steep grade under load. I know that engine is designed to operate at those high RPM's but still......
Our motorhome had the small Cummins and going down a grade my wife would ask if it was time to use the "magic" brake!
 
I have an F-450 with the 7.3L and pull a 390RK-R, so not quite what you’re asking about.

The 7.3 does a good job. I don’t feel under powered or have any trouble keeping up with traffic. That said, it’s not a diesel. It will rev going up or down hill, though it is amazing some of the hills it will pull in some pretty high gears, and it will shift more often than a diesel will.

Getting fuel is definitely the most challenging part of the whole deal. I bought a gasoline rated transfer tank to cut down on the fuel stops, which you will be making. I can get down around 6 in the hills and 8 on flat ground with the cruise set to 65.

I would make the same choice again.

Single or dually…. Your choice, I know the math works out for a single wheel. I personally wouldn’t want to make a habit of it myself.
 
I have an F-450 with the 7.3L and pull a 390RK-R, so not quite what you’re asking about.

The 7.3 does a good job. I don’t feel under powered or have any trouble keeping up with traffic. That said, it’s not a diesel. It will rev going up or down hill, though it is amazing some of the hills it will pull in some pretty high gears, and it will shift more often than a diesel will.

Getting fuel is definitely the most challenging part of the whole deal. I bought a gasoline rated transfer tank to cut down on the fuel stops, which you will be making. I can get down around 6 in the hills and 8 on flat ground with the cruise set to 65.

I would make the same choice again.

Single or dually…. Your choice, I know the math works out for a single wheel. I personally wouldn’t want to make a habit of it myself.

Thanks for the input....does your truck have the larger fuel tank? 48 ga I think...
 
Here is another video. I think this guy is at least honest about his choice. You can decided for yourself.

What I can't figure out is why one would consider an SRW for something as big as a 17,000 lb rig - whether-or-not they can get in or out of a gas station. And since the debate is about getting the most payload out of a gas engine platform I figure one is already thinking they are going to be at, if not over, whatever an SRW can handle. Seems to make the DRW the winner here regardless of fuel choice.
 
I have 12k lb 37’ Reflection and ‘18 SRW F350. I have 0 experience with Godzilla engine but honestly can’t imagine I’d ever go gas again. Can’t count the times up steep grades where I effortlessly passed slower sedans with ease. Same ease in going back down - auto exhaust break and never touched breaks entire downgrade. No gas engine would come close.
 
Here is another video. I think this guy is at least honest about his choice. You can decided for yourself.

What I can't figure out is why one would consider an SRW for something as big as a 17,000 lb rig - whether-or-not they can get in or out of a gas station. And since the debate is about getting the most payload out of a gas engine platform I figure one is already thinking they are going to be at, if not over, whatever an SRW can handle. Seems to make the DRW the winner here regardless of fuel choice.

Getting a gas to get more payload, IMHO, is really a questionable way to get safety. Yes, you can probably get under the sticker on a gasser where you could not with a diesel, especially in a 250 because of the de-rate.

But, let's think about this for a second here. Yes, the gas engine is lighter. Almost all that weight, however, is on the front axle. I can't see how having a gas engine has much/any impact on the weight carried by the rear tires, which, of course, is where the actual potential problem is with a SRW vs DRW (there's a reason there aren't dually tires up front). ;)

Add in the diesel having much more braking potential (engine brake), I can't see how anyone would be safer in a gasser vs diesel even if the "sticker" says so. Maybe safer from the law? ;)

If you can make a DRW work, no matter what you're towing, that's what you should get. It's just a better towing experience, small trailer, big trailer, it's better and, of course, it gives you more options if/when you decide to upgrade.

If you can't make a DRW work, as long as you don't live in a state like mine, get a 350 SRW. The 250 is only for people who live in states that tax based on GVWR (and there's only a few of them). Yes, I'm aware they sell the heck out of them, but, for most people, they should really be buying a 350 SRW vs a 250.

If you can make a dually work, just go right to the 450. Better tires, better brakes, better turning radius, very little cost increase.
 
If you have any notion of traveling more than 100 miles with no significant terrain then you will get by (barely). I switched to a diesel and I only pull 11,000 lbs fully loaded and I am in much better control - especially in the mountains. Forget the cost of fuel - it’s about the ability to control your rig in any driving condition.
 
I think there’s two schools of thought here and frequently people don’t consider which one they’re in.

How do you primarily use the truck and what do you want.

1) If the truck is lightly loaded or empty 90% of the time, do you need a diesel? My work trucks run about 12-13.5k pounds without a trailer. I put 20-30k miles a year on them, less than 5000 miles a year are hooked to a trailer. I think I’m the exact target demographic for the 7.3L.

2) If your truck is a toy and/or you’re a power addict, this is 100% enough reason to buy a diesel (or anything, really) in my opinion. Not many people are honest enough to admit this. 10 grand for a power stroke is the cheapest way you’ll ever get that kind of power, and you’ll even get a warranty!

SRW vs dually…

There is no question a dually tows better and more safely, and the OP is talking about big and heavy trailer. I have towed my camper across town with my SRW power stroke, it was fine. I personally wouldn’t want to cross the country with it, rated or not. Emergency lane change and panic stop anyone? A diesel gives you more power, duals give you more truck.

The original question was if the 7.3 could do what Ford claims it can and if the payload numbers fit on a single wheel. The answer is yes and maybe. I scaled my trailer today on my way to the dealer so not fully loaded for travel. It was 16860 gross trailer weight and had 3460 on the pin. If I packed for travel there would be more tongue weight and a good bit more in the truck than just me and my coffee cup. If you’re concerned about scaling legally I doubt a single wheel will do it without some creativity and decision making.

I had commented on getting fuel because that’s the biggest issue I’ve found with the 7.3L.
 
Anything over 14k is diesel territory for me. Heck, I am towing 11 and I went diesel. Love it!

Any 14K fifth wheel really needs a dually and a diesel if it's going to be towed any distances or in mountains.

I have a 3/4 ton diesel, and my 11K (dry weight) fiver has got me max'd out.
 
Any 14K fifth wheel really needs a dually and a diesel if it's going to be towed any distances or in mountains.

I have a 3/4 ton diesel, and my 11K (dry weight) fiver has got me max'd out.

I hear you. I went 3500 diesel. I went with the 1 ton. Not looking back. I do however, agree with many of the points made in this thread. How the truck will be used daily does play a big part of the overall decision

Bill
 

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