Can You Operate Solitude 390RK Slides & Leveling on Shore Power Without a Battery?

[Weebeenew]

We own a Solitude 390RK. Just got it actually. A 2020. We will not be moving it. So, my question. Can the slides and leveling operate on just shore power. Battery removed?
Thanks in advance!

 

[Weebeenew]

I think I found my answer. It needs to in place during use.

 

[NB Canada]

I think I found my answer. It needs to in place during use.

It should operate without a battery but slides are high draw so it will work better with it

 

[Second Chance]

I think I found my answer. It needs to in place during use.

You are correct. The converter/charger isn't capable of the amp draw to operate the hydraulic pump for the big slides and the leveling system.

Rob

 

[Weebeenew]

You are correct. The converter/charger isn't capable of the amp draw to operate the hydraulic pump for the big slides and the leveling system.

Rob

Thanks for the response! I was wondering about that.

 

[fred01]

I think I found my answer. It needs to in place during use.

As others have said it will work better (faster) with a battery but one is not strickly required. My Solitude has been parked for 3 years, slides are operated twice a year, no battery, no problem.

 

[Weebeenew]

As others have said it will work better (faster) with a battery but one is not strickly required. My Solitude has been parked for 3 years, slides are operated twice a year, no battery, no problem.

Thanks for the info!

 

[triplethreat]

We own a Solitude 390RK. Just got it actually. A 2020. We will not be moving it. So, my question. Can the slides and leveling operate on just shore power. Battery removed?
Thanks in advance!

Operating the slide or the hydraulic leveling without a battery is a great way to burn up your Converter/Charger. The hydraulic pump motor will normally being pulling 70+ amps, depending on what you are trying to operate...the slides or the leveling system. On the bigger units with Large hydraulically operated slide rooms, that pump motor can see/draw right at 100 amps. Most of the stock Converter/Chargers that these units come with will have a 55A unit.....thus my statement about burning the converter/charger up.

 

[triplethreat]

It should operate without a battery but slides are high draw so it will work better with it

That is really bad advice, and a good way to burn up the Converter/Charger.

 

[NB Canada]

That is really bad advice, and a good way to burn up the Converter/Charger.

You going to say the same thing to Fred above?
My advice was to use a battery btw

 

[triplethreat]

You going to say the same thing to Fred above?
My advice was to use a battery btw

Absolutely yes, I would tell Fred or anyone else to never try and run the hydraulic pump without a battery because the stock Converter/chargers (usually 55A) is not enough to supply the correct amount of current to the motor. Plain and simple, it's asking for trouble. 55 amps is much less than the sometimes 100 amp load the motor pulls. The exception to this scenario would be is that if the stock Converter/Charger has been replaced with a higher amperage C/C.....to the tune of something like a 100A C/C. The numbers do not lie and the motor will try to pull as much current as it needs with total disregard to what the C/C is capable of supplying

 

[Weebeenew]

Absolutely yes, I would tell Fred or anyone else to never try and run the hydraulic pump without a battery because the stock Converter/chargers (usually 55A) is not enough to supply the correct amount of current to the motor. Plain and simple, it's asking for trouble. 55 amps is much less than the sometimes 100 amp load the motor pulls. The exception to this scenario would be is that if the stock Converter/Charger has been replaced with a higher amperage C/C.....to the tune of something like a 100A C/C. The numbers do not lie and the motor will try to pull as much current as it needs with total disregard to what the C/C is capable of supplying

That I understand. I'm an electrician. But I would assume that the c/c is fuse protected to prevent this failure. Though, I wouldn't go trying this assumption! Battery will be in place while using the fifth wheel. Thanks all for the advice.

 

[triplethreat]

That I understand. I'm an electrician. But I would assume that the c/c is fuse protected to prevent this failure. Though, I wouldn't go trying this assumption! Battery will be in place while using the fifth wheel. Thanks all for the advice.

Ahh, fellow Electrician....I've been a Journeyman Maint. Electrician since 1980 (been retired since 2020). I would hope that there would be fuses to protect everything, but like you said, no good reason to test it.

 

[Weebeenew]

Ahh, fellow Electrician....I've been a Journeyman Maint. Electrician since 1980 (been retired since 2020). I would hope that there would be fuses to protect everything, but like you said, no good reason to test it.

Nice! I've been a journeyman industrial electrician since 1989. In 2020 became a controls tech II. Not retired. Getting there! I'm calling this camper an early retirement gift!

 

[triplethreat]

Nice! I've been a journeyman industrial electrician since 1989. In 2020 became a controls tech II. Not retired. Getting there! I'm calling this camper an early retirement gift!

I can relate, I worked in a fully integrated Steel Mill, so definitely "industrial" for sure. One thing about that type of job, at least with mine anyway, you gain a vast experience with lots and lots of different stuff. From 0 -5 V logic circuits, lots of 480V 3 phase, 2300V, 4160V, up to and including our incoming lines of 69Kv. Then on the DC side of things, the majority of our OH cranes were 250VDC. The dept I worked in (Steelmaking), we had 6 OH cranes that had a main hoist capacity of 400 Tons...each crane, plus there was a couple of aux. hoist on those cranes that a 75T hoist and a 25T hoist. We also maintained the Allen Bradley programmable Controller stuff. It was extremely hot there in the summer, and cold in the winter....dirty, greasy, and lots of climbing to access some of the stuff. I wouldn't change anything, but I sure as heck would never go back. LOL!

 

[Weebeenew]

I can relate, I worked in a fully integrated Steel Mill, so definitely "industrial" for sure. One thing about that type of job, at least with mine anyway, you gain a vast experience with lots and lots of different stuff. From 0 -5 V logic circuits, lots of 480V 3 phase, 2300V, 4160V, up to and including our incoming lines of 69Kv. Then on the DC side of things, the majority of our OH cranes were 250VDC. The dept I worked in (Steelmaking), we had 6 OH cranes that had a main hoist capacity of 400 Tons...each crane, plus there was a couple of aux. hoist on those cranes that a 75T hoist and a 25T hoist. We also maintained the Allen Bradley programmable Controller stuff. It was extremely hot there in the summer, and cold in the winter....dirty, greasy, and lots of climbing to access some of the stuff. I wouldn't change anything, but I sure as heck would never go back. LOL!

Oh yeah. I've gained a lot of experience during my years. I only worked with up to 2300 on some mills. 200hp MG sets for D.C. for the older mills and compressors. Spent a ton of time maintaining those things. Replacing brushes. Cleaning up the commutator. AB control logix 5/500/5000/studio view, etc, etc. Calibrating RTD's level sensors, 0-10 volts, 4-20Ma Worked at a place that did gasket materials, molded rubber, extruders for 15 years. Plant shut down. Now at a plant that makes sauces and dips. Then at the sister plant that distilled and bottled numerous brands of spirits. Now I'm back in the sauce division.
You worked on some big equipment! I worked on big calenders for sheet goods.

 

[triplethreat]

Oh yeah. I've gained a lot of experience during my years. I only worked with up to 2300 on some mills. 200hp MG sets for D.C. for the older mills and compressors. Spent a ton of time maintaining those things. Replacing brushes. Cleaning up the commutator. AB control logix 5/500/5000/studio view, etc, etc. Calibrating RTD's level sensors, 0-10 volts, 4-20Ma Worked at a place that did gasket materials, molded rubber, extruders for 15 years. Plant shut down. Now at a plant that makes sauces and dips. Then at the sister plant that distilled and bottled numerous brands of spirits. Now I'm back in the sauce division.
You worked on some big equipment! I worked on big calenders for sheet goods.

The "biggest" stuff that I saw, besides the 400T OH cranes.........In the Hot Strip mill motor room (all the gensets and control equipment for the entire 80" Hot Strip), the largest MG sets in there were the 4 main motor/generators for the finishing mill. The motors were 20,000 HP each, 13.8KVAC synchronous motors. Each one of them spun 2 large 750VDC generators on each side of the motor, for a total of 4 generators on each one.......all 4 of the 20,000 HP sets had 4 big DC generators for a total of 16. In the summer time, when energy usage was high, the power distribution supervisor had to call the local utility company and get permission from them before starting the 20,000 HP sets....they could cause a brown out if they were started at the wrong time of day (usually got started up on the midnight shift before the mill would start at 7AM. LOL!

Another really big setup was the two 5000 HP DC motors that operated the old Blooming mill. That mill turned a steel ingot into a steel slab. The ingots were roughly 5 to 6 feet wide, approx. 3 feet thick and about 8 or 9 feet tall......solid steel that was heated bright red and then sent through the blooming mill to be turned into the slab. It was old technology of course and was finally shut down when they built a slab caster and just poured the steel into a machine that produces a slab of steel....continuously

 

[Weebeenew]

That's some serious machines there!!

 

[triplethreat]

That's some serious machines there!!

LOL....yea, I still remember when I first started working there when I was 18 years old and I was in the Basic Oxygen Furnace shop where the 400T cranes are. I just stood there for a few minutes watching them moving back and forth on the rails they run on, lifting huge ladles of steel up in the air and I can remember thinking....those things are like 3 or 4 times the size of the house I live in. I was mesmerized by it all. Then several years later after I became a Journeyman Electrician, I was one of the guys working on them and fixing/repairing them...Wow!