Does anyone use an RV GPS or phone app to navigate when traveling?

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We are new to RVing and we were wondering if anyone uses one of the RV GPSs or phone App to help navigate? When we travel by car we always use Google Maps of ways when traveling. We were hoping that we could use something similar when towing our Travel Trailer. If any of you use one of these we'd appreciate your comments on them. Do they work well? Do they really avoid roads and highways unsuitable for an RV, like Passenger Vehicle only Parkways and roads, low bridges, etc.?

I've read some articles on line, but these sound more like sales pitches than reviews and I frankly don't know if I should believe them. I'd rather rely on real hands on experience told by the people that actually use or used them.

Thanks!

Bob
 
Watch out when using Google, it is not for RV's and trucks. I have had to turn around using it. I have one in my radio that I have programmed for trucks, that I use. My girl friend likes to use her Phone, and a Allstate app. to find the height of over passes when using Google, I like the built in one, don't have to worry about low clearances.
 
X2^^. I'll just add that many folks on the forum (including us) use the Garmin RV GPSs with good results. Rob
[MENTION=20676]BeerBrewer[/MENTION] some of us use the Garmin RV devices and find that they mislead with infuriating frequency.

I have posted here about the problems we've had with ours but Advanced Search isn't finding the post(s) to provide links for the OP.

We have the both of Garmin's most-recent RV GPSs and we also have the company's trucker GPS they were selling a year ago (no longer on the web site... they're dropping models quickly.)

All of the devices have misled us, especially the two RV GPSs, by giving us routes that were anywhere from a few miles to more than 60 miles longer than they needed to be. These erroneous routings have *not* been the result of the devices' claimed ability to route around trailer-unfriendly routes, in fact they have most often occurred when we were using the devices in "car" mode.

Just a few weeks ago I was going to an Einstein's bagel store on East Fowler Avenue in east Tampa... a very major and long-established thoroughfare. The GPS instructed me to turn left off Fowler, go south 1/4 mile, go west 1/4 mile, and then come back north 1/4 mile to Fowler where the store was located. When I got there I saw that I could have just gone to the intersection and turned left to the store, saving 3/4 of a mile of driving.

After about 1.5 years with these three devices I now have as many as two dozen such experiences. Most have been just a few miles wrong, a couple have been significant. We've also found that speed limits reported by the devices are very frequently incorrect, especially in Florida. Better this year than last year, but still not reliable.

The devices are updated as frequently as possible in the hope that these frustrations would go away. They have improved in 18 months but not gone away, still regularly loopy.

We now almost never rely upon them by themselves. My Ford truck has a built-in GPS, and my wife uses Google Maps, so we often have 3-4 GPS sources at work to ensure that we actually do take the best route. The alternatives often save us from quite-stupid advice by the one or two Garmins we are running at the same time - very occasionally even the two Garmins don't agree!

As for the devices' claimed ability to avoid restricted roads, low bridges, etc. that might impede travel with a trailer, I have no problems to report myself but have read about others online (maybe here?) in which the device guided the owner into a low bridge or a dead-end road. I therefore don't rely on them for that aspect either. Caution is needed while planning and driving.

Finally, we have not found that the RV resort databases and searching features in the devices are much use at all. It's sometimes interesting to see the campgrounds appearing on the display for the road ahead, but as a means of searching and selecting resorts/parks that meet our criteria in a destination area they're pretty useless... a number of iPhone apps and Google Search are far more useful for finding places to stay.

Last time I reported these problems here a couple of guys hurried to say how good the devices are. Note that I'm not shilling for anything else; this isn't a tear-down rant inn favor of something else. I haven't tried other competitors and have read harsh criticism of them too. I've owned the latest and greatest Garmins for years and until recently found them to be excellent.

Further, despite my complaints I would not get rid of the 3-4 Garmin devices I have now - not all of them anyway. Garmin's displays are large and clear, live-driving instructions are more timely, understandable and specific than those of my truck's GPS and sometimes of Google Maps, and the Garmins do a great job of displaying upcoming turns in a clear way and in plenty of time to prepare accordingly. Definitely a good tool, but don't embrace all the claims about them and be ready to double-check them when you're starting a journey of any significant length.
 
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We’ve been using a Garmin RV760 for the past couple of years or so and are very happy with it. But as someone said previously, you need to verify the routes to make sure they make sense. I typically build our major travel routes with Garmin Basecamp and compare them with Google Maps, an Atlas, etc., before downloading them to the RV760. Any side trips we take we usually use it, Google Maps or the GPS built into our F-350.


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Garmin 660 has served us well. iPhone routed us toward a weight limit bridge well below our GVW. Available turn around was ugly but we eeked thru. The up side is now my wife believes in mapping filters.
 
What I hate the most is that Google Maps ALWAYS takes you through the center of a business district and NEVER onto the Business Bypass !!!
Gotta make all their advertisers $$$$.

Almost had 2 accidents in Whitefish Montana on that towns very narrow and congested 4 lane roadway.
I always double check my routes now especially coming into a town or city. So I can avoid thise districts.

Garmin is on my 'wanna buy" list once they get it right.... [emoji4]

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One app I've not seen mentioned here is CAA. I have used their triptik to plan many routes you can down load it as a pdf file and save it. It shows gas prices along the way and other information. While it is not interactive while driving it works great for planning a route on a long trip. I can also sent the PDF to the kids so they know the route and about where we are.

Ken

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I’ve used Rand McNally for a number of years, including through Canada, Alasks and most parts of the country. I’ve had a few loony routings but really, not many. It had re-routed me around bridges that don’t allow propane, low bridges etc...sometimes requiring quite s few miles because of one bridge. I wouldn’t pull my trailer without it. Like all of them...keep them updated...zoomed new roads won’t show up...and some campgrounds may misplaced but overall well worth the money IMHO. I haven’t used Garmin, but have read quite a bit about problems with Garmin, to the point I chose not to go that way. Have also heard horror stories about using Google with a large trailer. (We do use Google sometimes to confirm what out Rand McNally is telling us. But...beats messing with paper maps...although mine does have the RM Atlas on the device as well.

Good luck and safe travels!


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I just use Google maps on the iPhone but do carry a Motor Carrier’s Atlas to double check routes it offers. This addresses low clearance concerns, etc. Atlas costs about $15.
 
Does google routing work if you don’t have WiFi or cell service?


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I just use Google maps on the iPhone but do carry a Motor Carrier’s Atlas to double check routes it offers. This addresses low clearance concerns, etc. Atlas costs about $15.

Our summer trip last year was 14,601 miles...a lot of squinting for these old eyes with a paper map! :)


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Does google routing work if you don’t have WiFi or cell service?

No. Further, to use it as a "live" GPS while under way your device has to have its location reporting feature turned on and have access to cell or wi-fi service to live-update its information. Also, as others have pointed out above Google will set routes that are uncomfortable or impossible to drive when hauling a large trailer. For these reasons it's not a good idea to rely on it alone.
 
I find google is more helpful in locating a restaurant, grocery store etc in a town, but not for cross country routing, especially if the route is off the major highways. That’s where you’re most likely going to find conditions that can be problematic for a large RV. And, as indicated once you loose cell service or WiFi...very common of the major routes, you’re out of luck.


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About Google on a phone - it does have a feature to download areas, so when you don't have service, you still have a map to display. Most phones have separate GPS chips, so in theory as long as they have a good "view" of the GPS satellites, they should work....but..the antennas used are pretty poor, the phones are in places that may partially block satellite reception, etc., etc. - so they use wifi and cell towers to augment. All of this said, in urban areas they can be pretty good. In rural, sometimes good, or maybe not so much or at all. Dedicated GPS units, like Garmin, can be much better at getting several satellite signals, so tend to be more accurate more of the time. I happen to have a fancy GPS on my boat, with a high end antenna...but even that can get lost and confused when I'm out in the wilds.
 
I have used Google Maps and Waze but have experienced lots of issues with both when we’re driving through the mountains or desert and lose signal.

So now I use a phone app called SYGIC.

It’s very popular in Europe. You download entire states you think you’ll be driving in and it continues to work with no cell connection. It has 3D maps. I especially like the sharp turn and train track warnings which are both audible and visual. Also really like how it displays the next cross street and shows me which lane I need to be in.

It has add on features you can buy, my favorite is the HUD. In this mode I lay my phone face up on a silicone pad on my dash so it doesn’t move, and the app flips the output (mirrors it) so all navigation info is projected onto the windshield.

Works great for me because I don’t like losing my night vision at by looking down at a nav screen.

Here’s a video showing the Heads Up Display:

https://youtu.be/QB-bgbuyXAg

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I have experimented with but have not actually used CoPilot. Back in the day before smart phones we used to use it on our laptop with a USB GPS puck and it worked well. I have heard the app (which you have to pay monthly for) provides options to set your height and width to do routing.
 

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