Does this roof look normal?

[CedarCreekWoody]

I was on the roof and noticed these wrinkles in roof membrane at front of camper. Is this normal? Should I be concerned?
2024 Reflection 100 22RK, purchased new 8/2024.

 

[Hoopy Frood]

I would be concerned if it were mine, but Grand Design seems to feel bubbles are a fact of life, and you'll likely get the standard "They all do that" response.

 

[CedarCreekWoody]

I would be concerned if it were mine, but Grand Design seems to feel bubbles are a fact of life, and you'll likely get the standard "They all do that" response.

 

[CedarCreekWoody]

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.

 

[BoredWeasel]

we fixed it on ours after a year of ownership. I got the standard GD answer that it is normal. Shame they can't fix the installation process and make it not normal, doing a better job on the installation.


Had that garbage install removed and had a Rvflex armor roof put on. Money well spent IMO

 

[Skilletface]

Had a similar experience that ran along a seam of the roofing substrate. I did reach out to Grand Design and yes got that standard statement of “ no issue “. I moved forward with annual roof maintenance that included the roof treatment from Camco and about a month later the bubble along the seam had laid down. That was three years ago and have not seen it since.
Clearly the roof material should not look like that. As you have noted, keep Grand Design informed and in the meantime try treating the roofing membrane. Your rig may be new but there is no telling what it’s been exposed to before you took over.

 

[Scott'n'Wendy]

Ya, unfortunately, what Howard said
Imo, document that, contact GD customer service and ensure they know about your trailer being like that by supplying pics and your VIN#. Then if something further happens you can at least say you brought it to their attention xx months ago.

 

[CedarCreekWoody]

Thanks guys. I am in the process of notifying GD. Armor flex might be a future option.
Skilletface what is the CAMCO treatment that you are referring to?

 

[Skilletface]

Currently I am not at home so I tried to look up the exact product and apparently Camco has gone to an all in one cleaner and conditioner “

Camco Pro-Tec Rubber Roof Cleaner - Deep Cleansing Formula Rids Dirt and Grime and Helps to Extend The Life of Your RV's Roof 1 Gallon (41068)​

The last purchase was one gallon each of cleaner and conditioner and that has lasted through four seasons.
I am not particularly Camco brand loyal it was just easily available from Camping World. I have become a fan of the 303 and Dicor cleaner protectant line. I’ve never really embraced products that claim to be all in one.

 

[huntindog]

I was on the roof and noticed these wrinkles in roof membrane at front of camper. Is this normal? Should I be concerned?
2024 Reflection 100 22RK, purchased new 8/2024.

My 2001 Wilderness was like that when it was new.
Dealership said it was normal. Next time I looked at it, the bubbles were gone. sold it 10 years later, and it was still fine.
My next two new coaches had perfect roofs from day one. no trouble with them either.

 

[Scott'n'Wendy]

I have become a fan of the 303 and Dicor cleaner protectant line. I’ve never really embraced products that claim to be all in one.

X2 on the Aerospace 303. Excellent stuff.
I stopped using dicor when I bought a GD with a TPO roof. Although, I must admit I've never heard of anyone having a product mismatch problem...probably Alpha trying to get you to buy their stuff.

 

[huntindog]

X2 on the Aerospace 303. Excellent stuff.
I stopped using dicor when I bought a GD with a TPO roof. Although, I must admit I've never heard of anyone having a product mismatch problem...probably Alpha trying to get you to buy their stuff.

Agree on the Dicor. When I first installed a couple of Solar Panels, I was not aware that Alpha prohibitted it. So I used the Dicor I had on hand. Its been there almost 5 years now with no issues.
Subsquently, I used the Alpha product. It smells and acts just like Dicor. Probably the same stuff with a different label.

 

[goducks14]

I've owned 4 different towables all different brands and never had a roof like that.

 

[CedarCreekWoody]

Thanks for the suggestions. It's difficult to imagine applying a clean would remove the wrinkles. At this point I will be certain GD has it documented and most likely monitor for a bit

 

[CedarCreekWoody]

I've owned 4 different towables all different brands and never had a roof like that.

I've not seen it on my previous three.

 

[lineman1234]

I checked the roof first thing this morning, it was flat, no bubbles anywhere. Temp was about 55f.
I looked weeks ago just to check and it had bubbles in places, but was 87f and sunny.

So it seems its the type of material and or the glue holding it down on my 2020 reflections 273mk 5ver.
Never on any other rv have i had bubbles. So it must be common. Or a common flaw.

I bought mine used last mid winter upper north so below freezing, inspecting the roof very well, nice and level.

 

[Butcher]

My roof looks similar to above.

As old as I am, I still have to accept that if someone says it ok and I do not think it's right, then I have to either accept the truth or fix it so I think it's good.

I believe that the plastic roof fabric that they used really cannot hold well with the type of glue that is approved. As long as we keep going green, we will keep going down this learning curve.

 

[Hoopy Frood]

My roof looks similar to above.

As old as I am, I still have to accept that if someone says it ok and I do not think it's right, then I have to either accept the truth or fix it so I think it's good.

I believe that the plastic roof fabric that they used really cannot hold well with the type of glue that is approved. As long as we keep going green, we will keep going down this learning curve.

Not exactly sure what "going green" has to do with this issue, since nobody is sure what the cause is.

 

[Butcher]

The types of adhesives and materials used in manufacturing are extremely restricted. Those that are old enough remember when cleaning materials work. Of course, those fumes would make you see stars at the end of the day.

I suspect [just a guess] that the adhesives used on the roof are not like they used to be.

I remember when they used to paint with solvents. Now, most are water based. I do know that it took a long times finding out what works. I suspect this is the case with the adhesive used.

 

[Hoopy Frood]

The types of adhesives and materials used in manufacturing are extremely restricted. Those that are old enough remember when cleaning materials work. Of course, those fumes would make you see stars at the end of the day.

I suspect [just a guess] that the adhesives used on the roof are not like they used to be.

I remember when they used to paint with solvents. Now, most are water based. I do know that it took a long times finding out what works. I suspect this is the case with the adhesive used.

Definitely within the realms of possibility. Although we could be looking at "less deadly" rather than "green".