F150 3.5 Ecoboost

[Stealth13777]

I am curious where you get your bad info?
The Trucks have a 7,000 gvw and weigh around 4,000 lbs.

[MENTION=24411]Flip94ta[/MENTION] is spot on correct. The absolute lightest regular cab no option F150 is just over 4K lbs but with a GVW of 6010. Most 4 door 150/1500 trucks are around 5500lbs.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/...2021/f150/pdfs/2021-F-150-Technical-Specs.pdf

https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/f...ngcompletespecsperformancedata-1545396085.pdf

 

[SteveCass]

I’ve have a 2018KR with a 1800 payload, according to the door and vin online with ford, a 2019 GD 230rl, I have towed over 40k miles, the 230 had a pin weight of 1100 pounds….at my max loading at the scales I was 200 pounds clear….not much so I upgraded the spring tension and put on load E tires and air bags……yeah ford, why SL tires on a max tow package, really?…. Here would be my only change that’s available now is the 270 model, has almost the same length but at a lower pin weight. I have been through the Rockies and Ozarks and eastern Kentucky mountains, I can do 65 up the hills with no issues….but I prefer 60 in the mountains….

 

[retired_engineer]

I have started to consider replacing our 2015 F-150 within the next couple of years. I've spent sometime wandering local dealer lots to see what's available. With the exception of work trucks I could only find Super Crew bodies and was told I would have to order if I wanted a Super Cab as I have today. I was looking XLT trim levels. All of the trucks had the 3.5L, tow package and extended range gas tank. I stopped looking after about 10 trucks as they were all pretty much the same. The door stickers were showing payloads between 1700 and 1850 lbs. Everyone had a hitch receiver rated at 1160/11600 lbs with WDH. XLT hybrids had payloads in the 1500 lb range and the one Lariat I looked at was in the 1600's.

I've run some configurations to get an idea of what a high payload F-150 would cost using Ford's configuration tool and a Ford option weight sheet to come up with estimated curb weight and payload. I was able to get an acceptable to me XLT into the 2K lb range but for the estimated MSRP I could get a similar F-250 XLT with the 7.3L for a little less. My conclusion is there isn't any real advantage for me to replace what I've got with another bit more beefy F-150. I either stick with the typical dealer configured XLT or move up to an F-250 for the higher capacities and vehicle weight. I agree with the others that the OP would be better off with a gas F-250 rather than a heavy duty F-150 for the same reason that you end up paying more for not quite as much truck.

 

[NewRVer]

Hi there. This post really caught my attention because I have a 2021 grand design reflection 260 RD and I used to pull it with an F150. So I can give you some insight as to my experience with that. My truck was a 2014 F150 with the standard V-8 engine 5 L. It had about 360 hp and about the same amount of torque. my F150 could pull the 260 RD OK on level ground but once we got to some hills, it struggled plus I would normally keep six gear locked out and kept it in fifth gear for cruising on the highway. It would downshift to fourth gear going up even some small hills and overpasses. I know that the eco-boost has more torque and more horsepower than my 2014 F150 and I believe the reflection was designed for these newer model F150s at a minimum. I feel that if you’re only traveling 50 to 100 miles to your campsite during your traveling season, you should be fine with the eco-boost but if you intend to travel further like I did and go on a few thousand mile journey, I would not recommend it. Just to let you know I did get an F250 6.7 L diesel and I am much happier. Pulling my camper with that is less stressful and I know I’m not limited as to where I can travel. I hope this helps you out. Happy camping.

 

[NewRVer]

I forgot to add in my reply about double checking, your payload capacity number one and number two your rear axle gross vehicle weight rating.

 

[Castlerock]

The following post has actual CAT scale weights for a 2021 F-150 XLT EB, and a 2012 260 RD.


https://www.mygrandrv.com/forum/sho...0-RD-good-idea?p=443058&viewfull=1#post443058

 

[classicrockguy]

FWIW. My experience towing a TT with a 2018 F150 4x4 Platinum Ecoboost:

Truck scaled at about 6,200lbs “ready to tow”. Me, the wife, small dog, camper shell, hitch, full tank, modest off-road tires, and some misc. crap in the bed. 7,000lb gvw - 6,200lbs = 800lbs for tongue weight.

TT was a Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s. About 5,500lbs gross and 750lbs tongue. Well under the stated towing capacity of the truck but (big surprise) close on tongue weight.

Pulled nearly 10,000 miles over 2 summers. Some flat, most big hills and elevation in Utah, Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. Modest speeds 60-65mph.

Truck pulled just fine. Ecoboost + 10-speed is a great drivetrain. BUT, not all good.

1) Gas mileage was very poor with the premium gas twin turbo at about 9mpg average over the 10,000 miles. If you ask this motor to work hard, it drinks fuel.

2) Truck suspension was too soft for me. Ended up adding Firestone bags. Huge improvement.

3) The Ecoboost makes LOTS of power, but is VERY prone to overheating on long grades. Turned in to a saga that took a lot of research and work to resolve. Ultimate solution was a Mishimoto radiator and intercooler at $2,000+ (I installed).

After getting our feet wet with the “little” trailer, we decided to upgrade. First challenge was getting an HD truck. Took 8 months. After that, we couldn’t find the bigger trailer we wanted, so we pulled the “little” one another summer with the new “bigger” truck. I won’t babble on about all the differences, but it was a vastly better experience vs the F150.

Now we have the “bigger” trailer, and initial experience with the new rig is still a vast improvement over the F150 + “smaller” trailer. Amazing power, zero overheating, far more stable and confident on the road, and 11mpg with twice the trailer!

I too did not want an HD truck as a daily driver. However, after a year of driving it I don’t hardly notice anymore. I loved my F150 (I’ve had 4 over the years). I also love the new F250 PSD. Both are awesome trucks, but with very different capabilities.

For me, the F150 is a non-starter for trailers much heavier than about 6,000-8,000lbs. Can do? Depends. Tongue and rear axle weight is challenging. Is an HD truck a better choice above that range. Yup.