Here is what GD customer service said today about the Andersen Hitch

[JColeman]

I am in the same boat, spinning my head going no where. This is my dilemma, My truck is a Ford F250 short bed towing my new Solitude s class 5th wheel 2930 rl using my clunky noise Pullrite superglide hitch. The plan was to alleviate all the weight and to free bed space when not towing by changing it to Pullrite Super lite hitch. Has anyone changed to this setup ?

Not trying to talk you out of moving on, but if your Pullrite Superglide is clunky and noisy it is not adjusted properly. Once adjusted correctly, mine is smooth and quiet. It's sill bloody heavy though.

I can walk you through the adjustment process if you would like me to. It's very simple. Send me a PM if you want some help.

 

[gerryh]

Jeff, thanks for your reply, i will inspect and adjust the hitch and see what happens.
best regards, Gerry

 

[Bamaman]

I chose to go with the B&W Patriot 16K hitch on rails. The hitch can be separated into two pieces--neither too heavy to easily lift out of the bed. The B&W quality is tops, and they're American made.

My fifth wheel is often moved around by my campground's trucks, and they are not setup to deal with an Anderson equipped trailer. I just don't want to deal with putting the head unit on and off--depending on who's going to be moving the trailer.

 

[flygooy]

Talked to Lippert service today and was told there is no replacement for the Turning Point as the mount is different than any other. Wish I would have known this as I would have not have bought the trailer. I get a lot of chucking and wanted to upgrade with the MorRyde or Demco Glide. Oh well, what to do?

 

[powerscol]

I have the Reese R20 Titan 5th wheel hitch and have ZERO chucking. It is a very close tolerance hitch. They also make a slider version.

 

[DriverDon]

Sorry, I'm coming very late to this thread, but it seems like the right place to post.

I have been vacillating over which hitch to get for our 2020 Chevy 3500HD CC 6'9" bed and 2020 (ordered) 310GK. I have looked at both the Demco and PullRite auto sliders, both of which (currently) require an ISR adapter plate. And, of course, they both need capture plates on the MorRyde pin box, as well. I'd also need a crane to get them in and out of the truck bed. So I'm not too crazy about the auto slider option.

I measured the position of the pucks/gooseball mount, and it turns out the pucks are 3.35" aft of being centered on the rear axle, and the gooseball mount is 4.5" aft. That makes the Andersen Ultimate and the Demco Recon, both of which mount to the gooseball, pretty attractive, since (if I'm doing the math correctly), the turn clearance on these would be >90 deg on the Andersen (regardless of coupler block orientation), and ~86 deg on the Demco. They're both fairly easy to move around, too!

The B&W Companion (non-slider) for 2020 GM pucks is currently only shown as appropriate for long beds, but I don't know why, unless Chevy uses a different puck layout for the different bed lengths (could that be?). That hitch would also provide good turn clearance, I'm reckoning ~83 deg. I can't imagine needing more than that, but I'm sure that there are people with dinged up front caps and cab backs that said the same thing...

There must be other SB hitch options out there. I'm not looking very seriously at manual sliders due to having to rely on my vigilance in moving them when I should. I wanted to post what I'd determined for any others of us who have the 2020 GM short beds, with the new puck pattern which is not widely supported yet. I'd be delighted to hear from anyone who's had the opportunity to try a hitch on the new GM short bed.

Don

 

[Second Chance]

Sorry, I'm coming very late to this thread, but it seems like the right place to post.

I have been vacillating over which hitch to get for our 2020 Chevy 3500HD CC 6'9" bed and 2020 (ordered) 310GK. I have looked at both the Demco and PullRite auto sliders, both of which (currently) require an ISR adapter plate. And, of course, they both need capture plates on the MorRyde pin box, as well. I'd also need a crane to get them in and out of the truck bed. So I'm not too crazy about the auto slider option.

I measured the position of the pucks/gooseball mount, and it turns out the pucks are 3.35" aft of being centered on the rear axle, and the gooseball mount is 4.5" aft. That makes the Andersen Ultimate and the Demco Recon, both of which mount to the gooseball, pretty attractive, since (if I'm doing the math correctly), the turn clearance on these would be >90 deg on the Andersen (regardless of coupler block orientation), and ~86 deg on the Demco. They're both fairly easy to move around, too!

The B&W Companion (non-slider) for 2020 GM pucks is currently only shown as appropriate for long beds, but I don't know why, unless Chevy uses a different puck layout for the different bed lengths (could that be?). That hitch would also provide good turn clearance, I'm reckoning ~83 deg. I can't imagine needing more than that, but I'm sure that there are people with dinged up front caps and cab backs that said the same thing...

There must be other SB hitch options out there. I'm not looking very seriously at manual sliders due to having to rely on my vigilance in moving them when I should. I wanted to post what I'd determined for any others of us who have the 2020 GM short beds, with the new puck pattern which is not widely supported yet. I'd be delighted to hear from anyone who's had the opportunity to try a hitch on the new GM short bed.

Don

Don,

It's best to start you own, new thread with this type of question.

Rob

 

[frank4711]

I wanted to use the Andersen with my Turning Point on my last 5th wheel and my hitch guy who I have been doing business with for 25 years said you will have to lock out the pivot feature to use it ... that was all I needed to know ... he would only provide the best advice to his customers ... had him install a B&W Patriot 18K and could not be happier ... now forward to my New S Class Solitude the B&W continues to serve me well .... the restriction of no goose-ball applies to the B&W Companion as well as the AUH .... there is a reason ... I am just not a engineer so I cannot tell you why ... later Frank

 

[SNye45]

I have a 295RL pulled by a F250 6.7 diesel, 6 3/4 bed. My hitch is a Pullrite Super 5th 16K hitch. I have the Turning Point feature enabled as I have "a short bed" and love the feature as I do not want to keep replacing my back window. So far no problems and it tows really well. Hitching up is easy

 

[RetiredJon2017!]

We have an Andersen 3220 hitch and a F350 diesel Long bed truck. Our fifth wheel is a Solitude Model 344 GK. The problem we have is the limited turning radius because the trailer goose neck doesn't clear the truck bed walls. While maneuvering the fifth wheel and parking the fifth wheel impacted the truck wall denting it and bending the mounting bracket that locks the tow ball to the fifth wheel. This hitch severely limits the turning radius and the ability to back into sites. Watching YouTube videos of people parking a Momentum and turning at ninety degrees that's not possible with this.

 

[goducks14]

We have an Andersen 3220 hitch and a F350 diesel Long bed truck. Our fifth wheel is a Solitude Model 344 GK. The problem we have is the limited turning radius because the trailer goose neck doesn't clear the truck bed walls. While maneuvering the fifth wheel and parking the fifth wheel impacted the truck wall denting it and bending the mounting bracket that locks the tow ball to the fifth wheel. This hitch severely limits the turning radius and the ability to back into sites. Watching YouTube videos of people parking a Momentum and turning at ninety degrees that's not possible with this.

Is the Andersen coupler in front or behind the king pin?
If it's in front of the king pin then that makes the pivot point longer.

 

[BB&LAB]

Goducks makes a good point. Also the Anderson hitch ball has 3-different height settings, so if you have not already raise the ball height.

 

[RetiredJon2017!]

Great feedback, did not know it was adjustable.

 

[RetiredJon2017!]

DOH, learn something new everyday. Thanks for your feedback.

 

[jasonl78]

In case others stumble across this thread and are looking for info on AUH and turning ability, it was something that concerned me greatly. My truck is RamBox equipped. For those that don't know what RamBoxes are, they are integrated tool boxes that take up the volume over the wheel wells in the bed of the truck. It means that my truck bed is narrower than a standard bed. I was very concerned about the pinbox contacting bedrails. Andersen's site said it works with RamBox equipped trucks so I took a chance. I'm happy to say it works very well for me. The reason is as others mentioned above, there are many ways in which this hitch can be adjusted. The hitch can mount in either direction. The coupler can mount in either direction. The ball has multiple height positions. The adjustability makes this hitch work well. Just thought I'd share that for those who may not know much about it or those considering it.

 

[Roll With The Changes]

I'm VERY late getting in on this thread but I've seen this topic keep coming up. My comment refers back to the OP.

Something I have noticed throughout these forums is a tendency to overthink and a little bit of documentation gets misunderstood and then it becomes the foundation for a ridiculous argument. The OP was all about which hitch may or may not void a chassis warranty. So let's back the whole thing up and think about the loading differences between 5th wheel and gooseneck hitches...

It really is about simple geometry. The ONLY difference between the loads imposed by 5th wheel and gooseneck hitches is the height of the pivot point. The 5th wheel pivot is 8 to 12 inches below the upper deck. A gooseneck connection is maybe 12 inches below that. The gooseneck connection will obviously apply more of a bending moment to the upper deck structure.

So of course the manufacturers will scream about the gooseneck. But what if the gooseneck hitch point was raised to the height of the 5th wheel connection? All the loads go back to where they were. Should be no problem. But wait! The Reese Goosebox is ok even though it connects at the same height as traditional goosenck.

My take on this: Reese made a deal with Lippert. Anderson didn't make the deal so their name is mud. The whole conversation is about everything except the mechanics involved.

Not exactly the same issue, but closely related... I called GD and Lippert to ask them about the max designed pin loading on the chassis (15%? 20%? 25%?) Neither of them had a clue. It's all about marketing and limiting liability.

 

[Eagles01]

I know it's been a year since you reply to the Post about the Anderson hitch and the turning point pin box just wondering are you still using the Anderson hitch with the turning point pin box and have you had any trouble with it

 

[RetiredJon2017!]

I'm still using the Anderson hitch. I raised the ball height in the hitch but still have a clearance issue with the bed of the truck. This reduces my turning radius when pulling or positioning the fifth wheel. I have an F350 Diesel long bed quad cab that pulls the Solitude model 344GK effortlessly. Jealous of the guy in the YouTube video with his GD Momemtum turning at ninety degrees to position and park without any problem clearing the truck bed walls with the gooseneck. Alternative is a different hitch that is apparently much heavier. I can easily install the Anderson hitch myself.

 

[Stephen/Kerri]

We just bought a new 2020 F350 shortbed and we use the Anderson hitch. It's been really solid for us. I have about 7-8 clearance and can turn about 80 degrees with no issues. I've also just installed safety chains for added peace of mind.

 

[GaryinGlobe]

I'm still using the Anderson hitch. I raised the ball height in the hitch but still have a clearance issue with the bed of the truck. This reduces my turning radius when pulling or positioning the fifth wheel. I have an F350 Diesel long bed quad cab that pulls the Solitude model 344GK effortlessly. Jealous of the guy in the YouTube video with his GD Momemtum turning at ninety degrees to position and park without any problem clearing the truck bed walls with the gooseneck. Alternative is a different hitch that is apparently much heavier. I can easily install the Anderson hitch myself.

Just ran across your post in my research. I also am using the Andersen UFH with a Solitude 344 and F350 SB SRW. I’ve had the same problem with the pinbox hitting the tonneau cover side rails on moderate turns. Have you found a solution? I have my rig at the dealer to try and figure it out. Thanks.