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BronFere

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Hey everybody.
Bron Fere is an anagram, all the folks I know personally just call me John. I'm new to this whole thing.

Anyway, I just bought a 2019 Reflection 150 Series 273MK 5th wheel. My 1st RV.
I also have a 2015 Ford F250 XL as a tow rig.

In short, my plan is to continue a life with a company I love during the busy season (April-January) for a few years then go back to working at resorts and travelling the country. I do HVAC service in CO most of the year. I'd like to go South, where it's warm during the winter months and keep myself busy or just regroup and take it easy. Bake some bread or explore my artistic side. Read a book or play a video game without interruption.

I plan on remodeling the RV to have a dishwasher next to the existing sink, a freezer where the desk area is, custom cherry counter tops to replace whatever is in there now (what is that stuff anyway?). Also, a washer/dryer combo in the lower half of the bedroom closet. Putting in a twin bed instead of the queen to free up some space (it's just me and my pup).

I'm not sure if I can add the floorplan to this post, but here's a link to the rig I'm referring to https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2019...on-150-series-273mk-fifth-wheel-specs-tr37711

It has 2 spare circuits - one for a washer and another for the dryer. My 1st question is what circuit breaker fits into the panel? I'm used to Square D, Eaton, etc doing residential stuff. I'm gonna need to add one for my washer/dryer combo, another for sensitive and expensive AV equipment. None are pre-wired so I'll have to do it myself. Along with the plumbing. Which I'm confident I can do. The breaker panel is located behind the fold-out couch.

Thanks in advance and any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
Thread moved to Electrical System and Wiring and approved (post was in moderation due to the inclusion of a link in first post).

Rob
 
Welcome, John. Sounds like you are going to do quite a bit to customize your trailer. Have fun and don't get too frustrated when you find some of the shortcuts the factory took. You will have plenty of opportunity to bring it up to snuff.

If I were in your position, I'd pull one of those two spare breakers and go down to Lowe's and have them get me whatever I needed. They will either have the exact breaker you need or one that is equivalent. While you are there you can get some outlets, old work boxes, wire, etc. The outlets used in recreational vehicles aren't the same as what we're used to in buildings that don't normally move. Many people have reported problems with those outlets that seem to be solved when the outlets are replaced with standard ones.

Some RV manufacturers use their Amish craftsmen as a selling point. What they don't tell you is that those Amish don't use electricity, and may not completely understand it. Don't be surprised to find wiring that doesn't make much sense to you. Also, the factories buy wire by the truckload, so it is pretty cheap compared to their labor costs. You may well find an extra three feet of wire wadded up because it is cheaper for them to do that than to take a few minutes to cut off the excess. You might lighten your trailer by a few pounds and get a couple of dollars for the copper.
 
Every RV breaker panel I've seen will have a list inside the breaker panel door somewhere that tells you the brand or many times, the brand(s) of breaker that will fit into that particular panel. Hope that helps.
 
I haven't picked the RV up yet and was more focused on checking out for water damage...

From what I saw on the breaker panel there were 2 spares. Blank breakers that can be added later. I was just hoping folks would know what to buy to add separate circuits.
 
Thank you for your input. : )

There aren't spare breakers, my apologies for that miscommunication. They're just blank spaces for future breakers.

I'm only wondering if someone can answer what specific breaker fits into the specific panel I'm working with.
 
You can go on GD website under Owners/Owners support Archive, they have a parts lookup that seems to have most parts on trailers
 
This is from a quick search that I did on WFCO's website for one of their breaker Power Panels. NOTE: This may not be the exact panel that will come in your trailer, but my guess is that the breaker brands listed here will be somewhat universal throughout all of their panels, but I cannot guarantee that.


WFCO Breaker Chart Branch Brk.jpg
 
I know wfco uses at least two different types of breakers. Sounds like you know what you are doing so I'd take an existing breaker out and take it with me to purchase a couple new ones. It wouldn't surprise me if you had to order from wfco.
 
I know wfco uses at least two different types of breakers. Sounds like you know what you are doing so I'd take an existing breaker out and take it with me to purchase a couple new ones. It wouldn't surprise me if you had to order from wfco.

There would be absolutely zero reason to order breakers from WFCO.....or even if they sell them to the public. The ones listed in my chart above are very common brand breakers found a many home supply stores.......think Lowes, Home Depot, etc. The one thing I would caution about though is the Square D brand. They make two DIFFERENT models of breakers and that above list tells you which model to get.

Square D..........model QO
Square D..........Homeline which is abbreviated as HOMT........THIS IS THE ONE TO GET, NOT THE "QO" style
 
Welcome!

One thing that takes some getting used to is trying to stay under the weight limit of your trailer when making modifications.

It’s always tempting to beef things up a bit, but you only have about 2000lbs on your trailer to add. That sounds like a lot, but it goes fast! Your battery, water and waste in the tanks, any options like an extra air conditioner and all of your stuff counts toward that 2000lbs.
 
Hey everybody.
Bron Fere is an anagram, all the folks I know personally just call me John. I'm new to this whole thing.

Anyway, I just bought a 2019 Reflection 150 Series 273MK 5th wheel. My 1st RV.
I also have a 2015 Ford F250 XL as a tow rig.

In short, my plan is to continue a life with a company I love during the busy season (April-January) for a few years then go back to working at resorts and travelling the country. I do HVAC service in CO most of the year. I'd like to go South, where it's warm during the winter months and keep myself busy or just regroup and take it easy. Bake some bread or explore my artistic side. Read a book or play a video game without interruption.

I plan on remodeling the RV to have a dishwasher next to the existing sink, a freezer where the desk area is, custom cherry counter tops to replace whatever is in there now (what is that stuff anyway?). Also, a washer/dryer combo in the lower half of the bedroom closet. Putting in a twin bed instead of the queen to free up some space (it's just me and my pup).

I'm not sure if I can add the floorplan to this post, but here's a link to the rig I'm referring to https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2019...on-150-series-273mk-fifth-wheel-specs-tr37711

It has 2 spare circuits - one for a washer and another for the dryer. My 1st question is what circuit breaker fits into the panel? I'm used to Square D, Eaton, etc doing residential stuff. I'm gonna need to add one for my washer/dryer combo, another for sensitive and expensive AV equipment. None are pre-wired so I'll have to do it myself. Along with the plumbing. Which I'm confident I can do. The breaker panel is located behind the fold-out couch.

Thanks in advance and any advice is greatly appreciated.

Congratulations on your new camper.

I understand your enthusiasm to make improvements.

However, I would recommend great caution whenever you make changes that will result in additional weight. You don't want to exceed your camper's capacity, nor, do you want to exceed the capacity of your truck.

What I would suggest you do, before you begin any modifications, is fill your fresh water tank (to the level you intend to travel with) as well as both propane tanks and go to a truck stop and check your weight against the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of both your camper and your truck. Then load up the camper with all the essentials you would need for a trip, food, clothes, chairs and toys and re-weigh with everything inside the camper. My guess is that you will be surprisingly close to the GVWR of the camper.

Once you get your weights, then you can decide if you can replace the countertops and add your appliances.

As far as switching circuits around that should be relatively easy for someone with your skill set.

I would also caution you about adding "Sensitive electrical equipment" to your camper. Campgrounds are known for their notoriously bad electrical systems (brownouts and power spikes are common) and unless you install some heavy duty power conditioning you will have problems. Additionally, while you are traveling down the road, your camper is experiencing "Earthquake" conditions which may also be harmful to your electronic equipment.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.
 

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