Keys for storage areas are very generic. I probably have your key

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Grand Design uses a common key to lock the front end lower compartment door on your brand new trailer. This is very true when you have a separate front door and storage compartment key.

You can spend 8 dollars plus tax for 2 key cylinders that match your entry door. You now have a specific key number instead of a very generic key. My dealership installed the new key cylinders for free as it took less than 5 minutes.

This has the added benefit of having one versus two keys for your trailer.

How did I find out? Lost my storage compartment key. Called Grand design and they sent me the wrong generic key. So I went to the dealership to get a new key. They looked at the lock and said it was key number x. And when they pulled the lock cylinder it was key number x. Sorry for all people’s safety I won’t share the key number with anyone.

Just letting you know that your storage compartment may very well be locked with a common key that would fit almost all other trailers.

Change your locks so that others can’t use the generic key to see what you have
 
It really doesn't matter. If someone wants in all it takes is a screwdriver. I would rather them get in with a key instead of tearing the door up. JMHO
 
I agree with Hokensalem. Locks are made to keep honest people honest. If someone wants in, they will get in. However, we do keep our storage doors closed to go with the concept "out-of-sight-out-of-mind". If the doors are closed, people wont get a chance to study your belongings to assess the presence for anything of value. I would rather a thief go through a lock than damage my doors or door frames if they really want in. We have replaced the entry door lock with an after-market lock.
 
We've been camping since late '60's starting with a tent and maybe we are just lucky or maybe our stuff looks like junk to a thief but we have never had anything disappear. I am going to change the entry doors to keyless locks but that's just for convience.
A friend of mine did have his toy hauler full of dirt bikes stolen from his 50 acres of woods that's not 2 miles from his house. He didn't keep a pin lock on it.
 
All the basement/storage doors on trailers used to be the standard 751 key. Okay, maybe not all, but I'll bet at least 75%-80%. There was never a plague of thefts that I ever heard about. You can put a $100 lock on a $.50 door, but that won't make it more secure. OTOH, I really do like the fact that our Momentum has one key for everything, negates the need to carry multiple iterations of keys.
 
It really doesn't matter. If someone wants in all it takes is a screwdriver. I would rather them get in with a key instead of tearing the door up. JMHO

I hear that every so often from people, but it makes me wonder...do you then not lock your house doors, windows, vehicles, bikes, or anything? Is it better to try to deter the opportunistic thief vs let someone walk off with something just because it's there and easily available for the taking? Just curious about the psychology of that philosophy...
 
Yeah I never lock my trailer. Not worried about anyone stealing stuff at a campground
 
I hear that every so often from people, but it makes me wonder...do you then not lock your house doors, windows, vehicles, bikes, or anything? Is it better to try to deter the opportunistic thief vs let someone walk off with something just because it's there and easily available for the taking? Just curious about the psychology of that philosophy...
No, we don't lock our house when we leave for a while, or lock the trailer storage at a campground, unless we feel the place is sketchy. We do lock it when we are gone for days. But, IMO anyway, closing the door is enough for most people, some people may take something that is open and available, but not if it's behind a closed door, whether that door is locked or not. But the person who is going to open a closed door may be the one who will open a locked door, one way or another. I think it's a step from taking something just lying around, like a bike or some such, to opening the closed door and willfully stealing. The closed door means it's gone from "swiping something" to actually "stealing something". To me there's a big difference between someone taking your unlocked car joyriding to someone willfully stealing it with other plans in mind. Doesn't mean much to the person who is now out of a car, but to me there is a difference, and the person who has other plans in mind is more likely to be undeterred that your car is locked.

From reading about the subject of theft, both from a trailer and the trailer itself, I've arrived at the conclusion, true or not, that most thefts occur when the trailer is in storage, either at home or a storage yard. In fact, I've read about quite a few trailer thefts that occurred at peoples' homes, where you think it would be safest. Theft at a campground seems to be much rarer. But, as I said, this all JMO.
 
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No, we don't lock our house when we leave for a while, or lock the trailer storage at a campground, unless we feel the place is sketchy. We do lock it when we are gone for days. But, IMO anyway, closing the door is enough for most people, some people may take something that is open and available, but not if it's behind a closed door, whether that door is locked or not. But the person who is going to open a closed door may be the one who will open a locked door, one way or another. I think it's a step from taking something just lying around, like a bike or some such, to opening the closed door and willfully stealing. The closed door means it's gone from "swiping something" to actually "stealing something". To me there's a big difference between someone taking your unlocked car joyriding to someone willfully stealing it with other plans in mind. Doesn't mean much to the person who is now out of a car, but to me there is a difference, and the person who has other plans in mind is more likely to be undeterred that your car is locked.

From reading about the subject of theft, both from a trailer and the trailer itself, I've arrived at the conclusion, true or not, that most thefts occur when the trailer is in storage, either at home or a storage yard. In fact, I've read about quite a few trailer thefts that occurred at peoples' homes, where you think it would be safest. Theft at a campground seems to be much rarer. But, as I said, this all JMO.

To all who are critical of the original information that your key is common and that you want to leave your trailers unlocked go for it and I hope it works well for you.

For those who want to keep honest people honest, changing out two lock cylinders cost me 15 dollars plus tax for a bit of peace of mind.

Any thief will break the door, locked or unlocked as it’s wasted time to check the lock when a screw driver will defeat it
 
Yeah I never lock my trailer. Not worried about anyone stealing stuff at a campground

No, we don't lock our house when we leave for a while, or lock the trailer storage at a campground, unless we feel the place is sketchy. We do lock it when we are gone for days. But, IMO anyway, closing the door is enough for most people, some people may take something that is open and available, but not if it's behind a closed door, whether that door is locked or not. But the person who is going to open a closed door may be the one who will open a locked door, one way or another. I think it's a step from taking something just lying around, like a bike or some such, to opening the closed door and willfully stealing. The closed door means it's gone from "swiping something" to actually "stealing something". To me there's a big difference between someone taking your unlocked car joyriding to someone willfully stealing it with other plans in mind. Doesn't mean much to the person who is now out of a car, but to me there is a difference, and the person who has other plans in mind is more likely to be undeterred that your car is locked.

From reading about the subject of theft, both from a trailer and the trailer itself, I've arrived at the conclusion, true or not, that most thefts occur when the trailer is in storage, either at home or a storage yard. In fact, I've read about quite a few trailer thefts that occurred at peoples' homes, where you think it would be safest. Theft at a campground seems to be much rarer. But, as I said, this all JMO.

Thanks for sharing. Was just curious how others think about it.
 
They can have what they want in my front TT storage except my 2000W inverter that they'd have to work pretty hard to remove. My ins deductible wouldn't even cover the crap I have in there. Plus I don't have a jacked up baggage door from some nothead trying to get in to see what looks good enough to pawn. A tote with some misc water stuff, a couple of chock's, maybe a Weber BBQ and some other non essential stuff. Go for it.
 
On my trailer one key locks the compartments and the entry door. I am not concerned about someone getting in the compartments, but I am concerned about someone having a key for the entry door.
 
Grand Design uses a common key to lock the front end lower compartment door on your brand new trailer. This is very true when you have a separate front door and storage compartment key.

You can spend 8 dollars plus tax for 2 key cylinders that match your entry door. You now have a specific key number instead of a very generic key. My dealership installed the new key cylinders for free as it took less than 5 minutes.

This has the added benefit of having one versus two keys for your trailer.

How did I find out? Lost my storage compartment key. Called Grand design and they sent me the wrong generic key. So I went to the dealership to get a new key. They looked at the lock and said it was key number x. And when they pulled the lock cylinder it was key number x. Sorry for all people’s safety I won’t share the key number with anyone.

Just letting you know that your storage compartment may very well be locked with a common key that would fit almost all other trailers.

Change your locks so that others can’t use the generic key to see what you have

That would be the CH*** key. That is the worst kept secret in the universe.My Momentum is the first RV not to use it. Just about all brands of RVs use it. It has been posted many times on various forums.
 
That would be the CH*** key. That is the worst kept secret in the universe.My Momentum is the first RV not to use it. Just about all brands of RVs use it. It has been posted many times on various forums.
Maybe the worse kept secret bit I was taken back when my dealership service department knew exactly what key code my storage compartment had when I told her that there was gray plastic on the key.

Perhaps overposted for the veteran camper owners of multiple trailers. For us with less than one year these things are things we should be aware of and shared on these forums as it’s a choice. Here have my stuff my compartment is unlocked to those of us that would rather keep honest pro honest knowing that the true thief will beat the doors in
 
I hear that every so often from people, but it makes me wonder...do you then not lock your house doors, windows, vehicles, bikes, or anything? Is it better to try to deter the opportunistic thief vs let someone walk off with something just because it's there and easily available for the taking? Just curious about the psychology of that philosophy...

Well if that makes you do all that wondering maybe you should think a little more. you are talking about 2 completely different scenarios. I would hope your house has a better door than your camper and you have more valuables in your house. Maybe not. As for my camper, I don't have anything in the storage compartments that would cost more than replacing the door and repairing the damage done by someone breaking into the compartment.
 
Well if that makes you do all that wondering maybe you should think a little more. you are talking about 2 completely different scenarios. I would hope your house has a better door than your camper and you have more valuables in your house. Maybe not. As for my camper, I don't have anything in the storage compartments that would cost more than replacing the door and repairing the damage done by someone breaking into the compartment.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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On my trailer one key locks the compartments and the entry door. I am not concerned about someone getting in the compartments, but I am concerned about someone having a key for the entry door.

Get yourself a new door handle from

https://www.rvlock.com/?utm_source=...5uIHYW47F30hJYJ884JpkQgRxMbBmXzwaAk23EALw_wcB

You only have one door so it's cheaper than needing two. I have two on my TT and they're great. My own key plus keypad and remote. I've only used the key in my doors a few times in the last two years since I've had the RV Locks.

You can do the same for baggage doors with proprietary keys.
 
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Our trailer has one key that fits the door and bays. Since we're full-timers we rarely leave the trailer for any length of time. We lock the door, but the bay doors are usually unlocked as there isn't anything easily taken there that is of value. Yes, the batteries, MultiPlus II, etc. are technically available to a thief, but they are all connected, so he would have to do quite a bit of disconnecting in order to get to them, and they aren't exactly light.

I'd rather a thief just open a door and take what he wants than have him destroy the door and then take what he wants. Of course, the insurance company may disagree.
 
I think there are about 2 or 3 or 4 different keys that fit any given Grand Design trailer.

In keeping with the "open secret" theme, the general knowledge amongst many in the GD rally "circuit" is if you lose your key or otherwise somehow get locked out of your rig, start going around asking your neighbors, particularly those of the same brand (Momentum vs Solitude vs Reflection, etc) to try their key.

Chances are you'll have a key that fits your trailer within 2 or 3 tries.

I've seen this "theory" tested several times.
 
Hmm, not so sure I buy into that. Our keys are Bauer and there are lots of different key codes for Bauer keys. I'm not really concerned so I've never done any research.
 

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