Momentum 21G Tow Vehicle

[RAAK01]

Hi everyone. First post here. My wife and I are looking to buy our first RV and the one we have decided on is the Momentum 21G. We have not bought it yet as I just started a new job but hopefully it is going to happen in the next two months. We found a 2022 model 20 miles from our house that is loaded except the generator. I wanted to post some specs for my truck and see if you all think it is ok, marginal, or unacceptable. I am not willing to go to a 3/4 or 1 ton. I would rather find another toy hauler that would work. I am a Class A truck driver so lots of heavy towing experience.
My truck is a 2021 F-150 XL Supercrew, 6.5 foot bed, 3.55 gears, 3.5 Ecoboost, 400hp 500 ft lbs. 36 gallon tank. I just have the regular tow package with the trailer brake controller. It does not have max tow or max payload. Here are the specs for my truck.

GVWR. 7150
GCWR. 16800
Payload. 2008
Max trailer weight. 11200
Front GAWR. 3525
Rear GAWR. 3800
Hitch Tongue weight max with WD 1160
Hitch Trailer weight max with WD 11600
I have not scaled yet for curb weight.
Total passenger weight is 650. I don’t have a toolbox or any add ons except tint. I will be carrying everything in the trailer on trips except us and some iPads.

The sticker on the 21G I am looking at is
UVW 7026
GVWR 11000
I couldn’t find the tongue weight but my wife is stopping today to see if she can find out.

I do have an electric golf cart I will be taking everywhere and I will not be putting a generator in the box up front. I will be using a Honda EU 7000 that will be loaded in the garage and rolled out. The thing that concerns me the most is the tongue weight. I have read that it could be as much as 12-1300. For you guys hauling toys how much of that can be offset by loading the garage behind the axles? I think a tongue weight of 1000 is completely acceptable considering I have 1 ton of payload. I plan on running with the Water tanks empty Anyway I’m glad to be here and hopefully be a part of the GD family.

 

[NB Canada]

Lightening the tongue is a recipe for disaster

You will be guaranteed to create a sway event

A thousand pounds will be less than 10 percent

TW needs to be heavy and your truck isn’t heavy enough imo

Post back when you actually weigh your truck with people ready to camp and you will see your payload is not close to what is advertised

Goodluck


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

 

[RAAK01]

Thanks. I know the tongue weight needs to be 10% or more of gross but I don’t see me ever having 4K in the trailer. The 1000lb tongue weight I was referring to was if I was 9-10k gross. My golf cart weighs 850 and the generator is 250. That puts me at 8100 plus our personal items. Even if I did have the trailer at max gross with 1100 on the tongue I would still be in the limits. I understand what you are saying and I will go weigh the truck with a full tank of fuel and all 4 passengers to get my actual payload. I was just hoping that I can adjust payload enough with the items I have to get the tongue weight in check. I will be purchasing a tongue weight scale and using it before every trip.

 

[Tommyp228]

We have a 2021 21G. GVWR on it is 9995. Tongue weight when it left the factory 1070 and a weight of 7430, but it does have a generator. These are tongue heavy and almost 13ft tall. Not really a half ton camper.

 

[21GFamily]

I second the comments that the tongue is heavy. I’ve put our rhino in the cargo area and that reduces the tongue weight but then I noticed some additional sway, even on a one ton. It’s tough - trailer is a great setup but it’s borderline too heavy for a half ton. You’ll have more than enough HP and torque to pull it but that darn weight could make it tough on the truck


2020 GMC HD3500 Denali Duramax SRW
2021 Momentum 21G

 

[Tommyp228]

Tow ours with a 2020 Silverado 2500 gas and it tows great. Have yet to put the Honda Pioneer 1000 in there so that might be another story.

 

[marlowefamily]

Don't pay attention to me... towing 30ft gd 24mpr toyhauler with 2020 expedition platinum suv. As long as don't drive 70mph+ in bad situations or have too long of a sustained deep grade descent..it tows fine. Wdh pushes 20% tongue weight back on trailer and carefully loading back of trailer near axles allows to target 12% tongue weight almost perfectly. Yeah, I do have to drive slow in rain/wind..and I can't really haul toys. But if can work for expedition...a perfectly spec'd max wheelbase f150 might be fine with small toyhauler...justvdepends on numbers and doing everything right and being careful when and how tow.

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[RAAK01]

I appreciate all the replies. Like I said I have been pulling trailers all my life but not a toyhauler or a weight distribution hitch. I think I’m gonna go for it and just drive like I normally do in an 18 wheeler. Correct speed for conditions and increase following distance. I got the max wheelbase truck and most powerful engine so I could do more with it. I almost got a 250 but I don’t think I would have been as happy with it for everyday driving. I can knock off 24 mpg with my truck if I drive it right. And it rides great. I will have to get rid of the p rated tires for some d or e range.

 

[Joe1967]

I would add a Helwig antisway bar to the rear axle of the truck.

 

[RAAK01]

I will definitely look into that. Also, which wdh would y’all recommend for this application? The dealer wants to sell me a Recurve R3 hitch. I’m not familiar enough with them.

 

[NB Canada]

I will definitely look into that. Also, which wdh would y’all recommend for this application? The dealer wants to sell me a Recurve R3 hitch. I’m not familiar enough with them.

I personally don’t think your truck has the payload to do it but the hitch that is designed for toy haulers is the “weigh-safe” hitch
You can dial it in easily when the payload changes


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

 

[Wileykid]

I would stay away from the Recurve R3. From what I have read, not a lot of people like it, and one thing I have a problem with, is in the instructions for it, they say to turn off your vehicles built-in anti-sway system. Had never heard of that before, and no hitch that I have had said to do that. Your vehicles anti-sway system only "activates" when sway gets to a certain point, it does not do anything prior to that. The system is also tied into several other stuff in your vehicle, and I see no reason to buy something that says you should disable a safety system on your vehicle.

 

[Toy Haulen]

Just returned home to Phoenix yesterday from buying our Momentum 21G in San Antonio 975 miles. I have the Ram 1500 with 5.7 Hemi, also installed timbren springs for the weight. Towed fine, was worried from all of the post I have read. Cat scales had us right at payload capacity with no generator and 1/2 tank of water (50gallons), 1 battery and 2 full propane tanks. 6900lbs and 1300lbs tongue weight.
We plan on getting 3/4 ton truck in a few years before retirement, Ram 1/2 ton is fine for us now. Hills were no problem, tested at different speeds up to 70mph, 62-65 seemed best for me. I used the Curt Tru Track 17501 hitch, up t 15k trailer and 1500lb tongue weight.
We really like the trailer! Good Luck!

 

[RAAK01]

Congrats on the new 21g. This definitely makes me feel better about it.

 

[nomadlife]

Still want input? I picked up 2022 21G about 6 weeks ago and tow with 2019 f-150. Been to CAT scales a handful of times with and without toys. I can share weights.

 

[Toy Haulen]

Yes, please share your weights and what hitch you are using.
Thanks!

 

[Michael Dixon]

I pull my 21G through the Colorado mountains alot, and just landed in black hills SD for a stay. Your gearing, rear dif, will suck on extended steep hills. I run a 6.0 gas chevy 3/4 ton with 411 gearing and wrestle hard with mountain passes. GD advertised toung weights are way off, I wouldn't do 1/2 ton with this trailer for this alone. 3/4 ton suspension also helps with sway if your bars are up to the task. Just pulled through windy Wyoming passing big rigs with no issue. Not sure if all this applies to where you live, but I do wish I had a diesel for the roads I travel.

 

[1phatboy]

We have a 2019 g21 and have played truck roulette. First , half ton Dodge 5.7, auto. Not enough pulling power up hills. Next f350 Ford v10. Couldn't maintain highway speed very well at all. Finally found a mint shape, 2005 Dodge diesel dually. Much happier, good. Mileage and no highway anxiety. We have generator and 2 bikes weighing 1400 lbs on board.

 

[Tgunter5]

All that HP and torque isn't going to help you to stop. BUT like some have said, its doable. If your within the truck specs after weighing it, even if its close to the max, I'd say your good to go! Especially with your driving experience I'd say your better equipped than most!!! Some (like myself) prefer a larger margin of "safety" in terms of towing near the limits of the tow vehicle so a larger truck will definitely give you that. Make sure you adjust the brakes on the trailer (mine were not adjusted properly on a brand new trailer) and be safe out there. Don't forget to have FUN and enjoy the ride!!!!!!

 

[Gilbert]

I’m glad to read your report. I drive a 2020 Ram 1500 Longhorn and just purchased a 21G that I’m picking up tomorrow.