Momentum 350m and Chevy 3500 SRW

[Scooter720]

I just picked up a Momentum 350m and was curious to know if I will be ok towing this beast with a 2015 Chevy 3500HD SRW Duramax CC SB. Pin weight from the factory is 2900# with a Reese 20K sliding hitch.

 

[Cate&Rob]

Hi Scooter720,
What is the payload noted on the label on your driver's door ?
Rob

 

[Scooter720]

The label only says not to exceed 3773#. There is not a GVWR anywhere on the label.

 

[TucsonJim]

The unloaded hitch weight is 2,900 pounds for a 350M. By the time you add cargo in the rig, you'll probably be somewhere around 3.5 to 3.6K#. Now add the weight of your FW hitch in the truck, passengers and cargo. It looks like you'll be quite a way over on the payload of your truck.

It will probably pull it fine, but your truck will likely be overloaded. You can follow this picture to get a better feel for it:

 

[Bamaman]

Your 3773 pound maximum Pin weight sounds about right on your truck.

If your trailer has a 2900 pound dry kingpin weight, you could easily be pushing 4000 lbs. after your trailer's completely loaded, fueled up, the weight of the fifth wheel hitch and with passengers to add.

Unfortunately, you're max'd out on your single rear wheel truck, and your trailer is usually seen with dual rear wheel trucks as tow vehicles. Not much you can do about your truck now, other than put a set of air bags on the rear suspension.

If you're towing in flat terrain, you'll probably be okay. If you were towing mega miles that included mountain driving, trading for a dually would be warranted.

 

[Cate&Rob]

Toy Haulers can be difficult to figure out, because what you carry in the garage actually lifts weight off the pin. You have about 900 lbs between dry pin weight and what your truck can carry. This is a good thing. The golf cart is actually helping ! No way to know exactly without actually weighing your rig . . but, I think you are in the right ballpark.

Rob

 

[Scooter720]

Thanks everyone for your replies. I can't wait for nicer weather here in Michigan but as soon as I get a chance, I will load the cart up and hit the scales.

 

[Dave and Monica]

I've seen some scaled number for toy haulers. What you load in the garage usually offsets the weight added in the front storage and therefore the pin weight % doesn't increase dramatically empty verses loaded. Most FW pin weight can increase considerably as there's no offsetting weight to what's added in the front storage. The worst case towing a toy hauler in terms of pin weight is when it's loaded but an empty garage.

Dave

 

[el Rojo]

When talking with other FTers that have gone from DRW to SRW most say they wished they had the DRW again, they add a lot of stability.

 

[Traveling Piper]

Congrats on your new 350. We just bought one also. One thing about the 350 is the baggage area is not huge like many fifth wheels, so bonus of that is, it cuts down on what you can add to pin weight in very front. Have fun on your travels- maybe see you down the road.

 

[Barbara & Dave]

I'm confused. According to the spec sheet I have, the payload for a 2015 3500HD Duramax Crew Cab Standard Bed SRW 2WD is 4159lbs.

 

[Bamaman]

Chevy's tow capabilities are easily found in owners' manuals, but they're almost secretive about the bed capacity weight. I finally found a list online that said it was 4,000 lbs. for the SRW model. One would need to go by what is says on the door post. .

No matter what the spec's say, I still wouldn't want to tow a full size or large toyhauler with any single rear wheel diesel pickup. After loading the trailers, they often end up so much heavier than originally advertised.

When I was looking for a 5th wheel, I stayed with the Reflection models as that's all I'm comfortable towing with my 3/4 ton diesel pickup.

 

[Cate&Rob]

Hi Barbara & Dave,

Does the "spec sheet" number that you have, agree with what is on the driver's door or door pillar label that is specific to your vehicle ?

Rob

 

[Scooter720]

I am having a hard time finding the spec sheet for the 2015 Silverado's but if I can remember correctly it was around 4100# on the spec sheet and 3733# on the drivers door pillar.

 

[roadkingfl]

We tow our 350M with a 2015 Ford F450...

 

[Bamaman]

We tow our 350M with a 2015 Ford F450...

Well you have no issues towing virtually anything you want.

I towed my 11K lb. Reflection 323BHS from Gatlinburg through the Smokies via I-40 and the Blue Ridge Mountains into North Georgia earlier this week. My F250 with a 60 hp tow tune pulled great, however 7% and 8% downhill grades are steeper than I like. I wouldn't think about going from Gatlinburg over to Cherokee through the National Park with my trailer, however.

Everyone that tows heavy RV's really needs to pay close attention to their suspensions, shocks and brakes--keeping them at 100% condition.

 

[roadkingfl]

Bamaman, We will be making our long trip in July...Florida to S. Dakota 4,600 miles round trip...Very nice truck 440 HP 860 Torque...

 

[Bamaman]

Our 2015 trips will be to Lake Lanier Islands, Stone Mountain Park and a state park 10 miles away. That's a max. 90 minutes towing.

We have to stay close to take care of a couple of grandchildren that are 3 and 7 years old.

We're fortunate to have our trailer stored in a wonderful member-owner campground in the mountains with 300 campsites, 2 pools and a huge party house. They move our trailer onto a lot and return it to storage when we go home.

I brought my old 31' travel trailer home this week to recondition and sell. It's 19 years old, and maybe has 1000 miles on it.

Have a great time on your big trip this Summer.

 

[Traveling Piper]

Bamaman, That sounds like a nice set up at that park. We have a granddaughter who lives on Lake Lanier. Can you recommend a nice clean park, near the water for kayaks would be nice, but don't need pools or other amenities.

 

[Bamaman]

It depends on where your granddaughter lives. Lanier's a big lake, and you can drive 60 miles trying to get around it. Off Buford Dam Road, there are a couple of Corp. of Engineer park campgrounds. East of Gainesville, you have the Olympic rowing competition area. I'd suggest you pull up the lake on Mapquest or GoogleMaps.com and find out what's close to your granddaughter. The parks are shown. Lake Lanier Islands have a campground or two, two hotels, two golf courses and a great water park.

It's visited by more people than any U.S. National Park.