RV Sinks on Wet Grass, Raising Concern About Fold-Out Steps Blocking Door

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A member’s fifth wheel sank into rain-soaked grass at a Pennsylvania Thousand Trails campground, requiring a friend’s Jeep to help pull it back onto gravel before repositioning. Overnight, the leveling supports sank on the side opposite the only entry door, so the member was not trapped. The experience raised concern that sinking on the entry side could force the deployed fold-out steps against the door and prevent it from opening.

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WOW!!! We got lucky…
We are currently staying at a Thousand Trails CG in PA that has all grass, native soil RV sites. The grass is hiding a dangerous condition that can leave you trapped inside your RV if you have fold out stairs.

We arrived at our site following a day of rain to find out that the site they put us on was not “improved” with rock or other hard materials. The back in site sloped down away from the access roadbed that I pulled in on and had a high berm sloped drop off towards the other road at the back of our site. Our site was a 90 degree back in so I backed off the gravel road onto the grass site and the trailer sunk into the ground as I was trying to get squared up with the electric / water hook up. The flat grass gave way to spongy rain soaked soil near the back of the site and we were stuck. The 4x4 dually dug in spinning the tires when I tried to pull forward back up on the gravel road.

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The built up roadbed was above the level of the RV site (6-12”) and I couldn’t get traction in the wet grass / mud to climb back up onto the gravel.

The longer I sat there the deeper the trailer sank it.

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Luckily our friends had a Jeep and gave us a yank with a tow strap to get me back up on the gravel.

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The site was wide enough that I eventually ended up having to angle the trailer at a 45 across the site to keep us away from the berm drop off at the back and give me room at the front to unhitch and pull the truck out without having to climb straight up the hump to the gravel road.

We got the trailer situated and used the auto level to set the stabilizers. We put down the swing out steps and adjusted them to clear the bottom of the door. It was starting to rain again so we hustled up and got inside.

During the night we sunk into the ground!!

The stabilizers pushed down into the rain soaked ground and we were leaning to the utility side of the trailer.

This is when I realized how LUCKY we were that the trailer sank on the side opposite our only door. If the trailer had sank down on the stair side it would have bound the stairs tight up against the bottom of the door and prevented us from opening the door to get out… TRAPPING us in the trailer.

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Lesson learned:
1) Don’t set the stairs out and leave them out overnight if you’re parked on soft ground because you could become trapped. If you sink and the stairs bind up against the door then your only exit option will be that you have to climb out one of the emergency windows.

2) The orange stackable waffle block levelers were useless in these conditions. I purchased 50# bags of pea gravel and wrapped them in heavy trash bags to spread out the weight under the leveling blocks.

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Solution: Pull the stairs up and store them inside the rig when you are inside for the night. That way if your RV sinks overnight you can still get out in the morning!!

Better yet, don’t accept a site that is not improved with a suitable surface to prevent this…. Yeah right …. Thanks to the new Thousand Trails policy of not letting you pick a site and they stick you on one like this during Labor Day weekend and there are no other choices, you are “stuck” with the site they give you and physically “stuck” on the site when you sink in….

The other issue that could happen on soft ground is if your front main “landing” gear sink into the ground far enough you might not be able to back in and get under your hitch. That’s another PITA to be avoided at all costs…

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Safe travels y’all!
 
While I'm sorry that all that happened, I am glad that those Snap Pads are not necessarily the godsend they advertise themselves to be. :) I don't care for the solid steps myself, but never considered such a predicament as yours.

Just curious, could you have raised the side of the trailer using the manual controls for the leveling system? Our controls are on the panel screen just inside the door.
 
Just curious, could you have raised the side of the trailer using the manual controls for the leveling system? Our controls are on the panel screen just inside the door.
We don’t have access to the leveling controls from inside. Our controls (Solitude 310GK) are on the inside of the front storage bay door on the utility side.

Makes me wonder if a second controller could be wired inside?? Probably not that easy to do or cost effective for the fix compared to just taking precautions when on soft ground.

We could probably open a window and holler for help or call the 24 hr CG emergency number and get someone to reach the controls for us.

Since this was our first time that it happened in several years camping at multiple different CG’s it caught me off guard…. Now that I know what can happen I’ll be prepared the next time before I close the door and go to bed.

Hopefully posting my trial by fire experience can prevent someone else from getting trapped or stuck.
 
Makes me wonder if a second controller could be wired inside?? Probably not that easy to do or cost effective for the fix compared to just taking precautions when on soft ground.
That's a good question as to if a second controller could be wired in parallel with the original one. If you have the Lippert Ground Control 3, a control panel would be about $350 and splicing into the wiring would not be that hard.

I really doubt it's worth it as it probably will never happen again, and could be avoided by just pulling your steps inside after setting up. I like cheap solutions to a problem.
 
Is it possible you could get a key FOB to control your jacks. I had one for my Jayco I could use to raise/lower the jacks along with the control switches.
 
Is it possible you could get a key FOB to control your jacks. I had one for my Jayco I could use to raise/lower the jacks along with the control switches.
I don't think there are any key fob remote devices but some, not all, Ground Control 3 systems will accept a Lippert remote control. Depends on if they are set up for wireless operation.
 
Unfortunately it appears the factory wireless gateway/control system was not introduced on the Solitude line until the 2021 model year. Having that would have allowed use of the One Control app to control the leveling system from your phone.

I almost asked if you tried, but then looked it up to see that it unfortunately wasn't an option in 2020. I wonder if installing the wireless gateway would be easier and less expensive than hardwiring an interior panel...
 
Awhile back camper next to us, their site had a slight upward slope and their fold out solid steps would not go low enough for them to close the front door. They had to leave those steps in/up and use the back door, fortunately they had a back door.
 
We camp on grass most of the time but have never had that problem. I guess we have enough clay or rocky soil where we camp. I would think 1x12 boards or pieces of plywood would be much lighter to haul around than the bags of rocks. My SIL tends to get stuck a lot with his 20,000 lb trailer. The first thing I did after getting a truck big enough to pull him out was to buy a tow rope. Sure enough, the first time we went camping with him, he got stuck and we were able to pull him to his camping spot.
 
I carry 6 sections of plywood 18x24 for that reason, and always put them under the tires/stabilizers if I have any doubts about the surface.
When traveling, I place them upright against the walls of the pass-thru compartment to prevent any banging of gear against the front in case of an emergency stop or brake-and-swerve.
 
We don’t have access to the leveling controls from inside. Our controls (Solitude 310GK) are on the inside of the front storage bay door on the utility side.

Makes me wonder if a second controller could be wired inside?? Probably not that easy to do or cost effective for the fix compared to just taking precautions when on soft ground.

We could probably open a window and holler for help or call the 24 hr CG emergency number and get someone to reach the controls for us.

Since this was our first time that it happened in several years camping at multiple different CG’s it caught me off guard…. Now that I know what can happen I’ll be prepared the next time before I close the door and go to bed.

Hopefully posting my trial by fire experience can prevent someone else from getting trapped or stuck.
If you check your Ground Control, controller (should be overhead in the front bay - at least it is in my rig) for a black antenna wire you may be able to add this devise from Lippert. It's a remote for the ground control.

edit - check with Lippert to see if they have similar, and if the one I linked would be compatible with your system.
 
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