Slide LED Lights

[smitty29832]

We are out for our first night in our new Reflection 303RLS. I'm testing everything. One thing I can't find is the switch for the LED lights outside under the bedroom closet slide. Where is that darn thing?

 

[Norcalrv1]

On the Anderson water valve - red switch. At least on the 337


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[smitty29832]

On the Anderson water valve - red switch. At least on the 337


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Ha! That's it. I thought that was just a light that came on for the water pump and not an actual switch. Thanks for the quick reply. I was able to see how bright they are before going to bed.

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[Norcalrv1]

Right on
Rod





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[Cate&Rob]

Still the most often asked question on this forum !.
Months after this was first brought to their attention, I wonder why GD won't put a label on this switch .

Rob

 

[redram]

Still the most often asked question on this forum !.
Months after this was first brought to their attention, I wonder why GD won't put a label on this switch .

Rob

Same reason they keep putting cheap grease seals and none auto adjust brakes on the RVs.

 

[offtohavasu]

Same reason they keep putting cheap grease seals and none auto adjust brakes on the RVs.

GD may take care of the switch, but they do not do the seals. That comes from Lippert.

 

[Planehauler]

Well at least there were lights. I had two 3/4" holes and bare wires in them. No lights. The dealer didn't even know that they should be there.

 

[redram]

I paid Grand Design NOT Lippert.

 

[offtohavasu]

That's fine. But you're saying GD put the seals in, and that's a FALSE statement.

 

[steve gravelle]

Curtis, some folks have trouble with the truth, and want to vent, as you well know! I do think it's a little unfortunate that so many RV manufacturers have to accept the Lippert components and resold items that are not of the highest quality!

 

[offtohavasu]

I get that Steve, it was just the statement wasn't factual. I look forward to seeing what folks report back after attending the rally. I'm sure some feet will be held to the fire. Unless of course, Lippert says this at the rally, "Ok, we're here to answer any questions you may have, as long as it doesn't have to do with grease, bearings, or bearing seals. Now who's got the first question?"

Anywho, we're getting off topic here and I return you to you're regularly scheduled programming.

 

[Cate&Rob]

I paid Grand Design NOT Lippert.

I know there have been a couple of comments after this, but redram has a point.

I find it really curious that the RV industry still gets away with sending a customer to their supply base to resolve problems. Can you think of any other industry that gets away with this ? Can you imagine if you had a bearing problem on your truck and you were sent (by the truck manufacturer) to work out your problem directly with their bearing or axle supplier ?

I can tell you that if NHTSA takes an interest in the grease-on-the-brakes situation, it will be Grand Design that they will want to talk to. Their issue is with the company that puts the vehicle on the road . . . not with who supplied the parts to that company.

Rob

 

[WhittleBurner]

Not always true. The government went after TAKATA for the airbag failures on the cars and trucks.

 

[Cate&Rob]

Not always true. The government went after TAKATA for the airbag failures on the cars and trucks.

Not exactly. NHTSA went after every vehicle manufacturer who had used the suspect TAKATA airbags to provide them with complete usage information. They do provide a coordinating activity where you can find the info provided to NHTSA by the vehicle manufacturers, on the NHTSA website. If your vehicle is on the list (by manufacturer and VIN), correction is the responsibility of the vehicle manufacturer/dealer. I don't think NHTSA would direct any vehicle owner to seek corrective action from the component supplier (TAKATA).

Rob

 

[WhittleBurner]

Yes the auto company's have to fix the problem but it is TAKATA being fined $14,000 a day for not cooperating.

 

[Cate&Rob]

Yes the auto company's have to fix the problem but it is TAKATA being fined $14,000 a day for not cooperating.

Valid point. This does appear to be NHTSA leaning on a tier 1 supplier to provide information to the vehicle manufacturers.
We have wandered from the OPs topic but still good discussion.

Rob

 

[carnolddsm]

Yes the auto company's have to fix the problem but it is TAKATA being fined $14,000 a day for not cooperating.

But guess who is responsible for the recall and the fix, the supplier or the final manufacturer? Just received a recall notice last week from Acura, couldn't find anything in the notice saying take my car to Takata.

 

[redram]

I do believe that Grand Design could spec out there axles with better grease seals and self adjusting brakes. If they did i would be very happy to pay extra for them. I don't think i made a false statement. Sorry if this offends you but the life of my family is very important to me. Grand Design lets there dealers handle this however they want. This is not good business. More to come. Don

 

[RGMutchler]

I really find it interesting that some folks want to make a distinction between Grand Design and Lippert. According to this logic then Grand Design has no responsibility for anything because they put the trailer together from components provided by other companies, IE, if the components that the other companies provide fail it is the supplier not Grand Design who is at fault. Grand Design decided which supplier it would use, Grand Design spec'ed the components, and Grand Design accepted, incorporated and has continued to use the components. Play what word games you want but Grand Design did in fact install those grease seals, it was done for them, at their direction for incorporation into their product.
Grand Design has done a great job of customer communication and standing behind their product in many instances. However, I haven't seen any great improvement over some other brands I have owned when it comes to the quality of the overall product. If they had this forum wouldn't need a tech section. We are very pleased with the trailer we bought from Grand Design but I do not absolve them from some of the issues we have had and that seem to be cutting across the model years indicating a lack of attention to fixing component issues and manufacturing techniques.