Solitude 390 RK

StevyG

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Hello all, I am becoming a new owner of solitude 390 RK. Qusetion..to pull this 41 ft 16000 lb unit do i need a truck with Dual tires (aka Dually)? I am considering a Ford King Ranch long bed Diesel ( Not a Dually)
I am Not a newby to trailers,,But I am a newby to 5th Wheels

Your Thoughts Please..StevyG

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Hello all, I am becoming a new owner of solitude 390 RK. Qusetion..to pull this 41 ft 16000 lb unit to i need a truck with Dual tires (aka Dually)? I am considering a Ford King Ranch long bed Diesel ( Not a Dually)
I am Not a newby to trailers,,But I am a newby to 5th Wheels

Your Thoughts Please..StevyG

Sorry for the Subject (Solitude Typo) Could not seem to Change

Short answer is yes...a Dually. Now, the long explanatory version. That trailer has a GVWR of 16,800 lbs, so if you load it up to or close to the GVWR of 16,800 lbs, that trailer will be putting a minimum of at least 3360 lbs of pin weight on a truck....and that number is based on 20% of the trailer's weight. Many times however, the pin weight can be higher than 20% of the trailer weight....sometimes reaching as high as 25%....depending on how things are loaded in the trailer and how much is loaded in the trailer. So just for sake of shared info here, look at that same 16,800 lbs of trailer weight and multiply it times the 25% number....pin weight could be as high as 4200 lbs. So, then the question becomes, how much payload capacity does your truck have....and there are many variables to that answer. The easiest way to find out is to look at the sticker on the driver side door post and find the white sticker with yellow highlighted areas and you will find the payload number for THAT truck. So let's say you have a truck with 3500 lbs of payload and assuming the 20% number for pin weight when the trailer is loaded up to or close to the GVWR. So you have 3360 lb of pin weight on a 3500 lb payload truck. That gives you a VERY slim margin right right off the bat. Now, you need to add up everything else, weightwise that the truck will be burdened with, like the 5th Wheel hitch, passenger or passengers, maybe a toolbox in the bed of the truck...maybe a load of fire wood, an aux. diesel tank, etc, etc. Only you know how much "extra stuff" you will be taking along with you, so make an estimate as close as you can to the total, then add all of that weight to the hitch weight, and the pin weight of the trailer. That will be the amount of available payload the truck will need...at a minimum.

One thing that most all of us do is to try and calculate a "worst case scenario" when trying to figure out truck/trailer matchups. Worst case scenario ALWAYS involves using the GVWR of the trailer, as the trailer may be loaded lighter than the GVWR, but should NEVER be loaded heavier than the GVWR. And pin weights on 5th Wheel Camping type trailers will almost always be at LEAST 20% of the trailer weight....and many times even more....21%..maybe 22-23%....and once in a while they go as high as the 25% number

So the short version answer that I provided was Yes...a Dually will be needed. The long version of my reply gives you the reasoning why and how to make a determination based on factual information that is real world, how it works 99.0% of the time. Personally, there would be no question for me on a trailer that size...I would have a truck that had at least 5000 lbs of payload capacity and in almost all instances, the would be a Dually One Ton truck. Hope this helps.
 
Thanks for the info, This is my third RV. We do travel very light Clothes & a couple of bikes. Probably otr 2 months ..hopefully more time.
I really appreciate You taking time for the education...looks like i will be trading in my 2016 Dodge Ram 1500
 
Having towed our previous 5th wheel with SRW 3500 for a couple of years, and then upgrading to a DRW 3500 and towing the same 5th wheel. I will never tow a 5th wheel with a SRW again! The stability that a DRW gives you is phenomenal compared to a SRW. Towing in a cross wind makes a huge difference, no more white knuckles. Took me a couple of weeks to get used to driving it around town with that big butt. Sure parking can be a pain sometimes, but I usually park in the north 40.
 
Dually. Or, you will be buying one soon after.
 
Thanks for the info, This is my third RV. We do travel very light Clothes & a couple of bikes. Probably otr 2 months ..hopefully more time.
I really appreciate You taking time for the education...looks like i will be trading in my 2016 Dodge Ram 1500

Glad I could help.....I'm one of those guys that learned the lesson the hard way, so I'm always willing to try and explain the basis for my opinions, and as always....basing it on fact, not emotions. Good luck with the search....You'll love how a Dually tows that 390.
 
Glad I could help.....I'm one of those guys that learned the lesson the hard way, so I'm always willing to try and explain the basis for my opinions, and as always....basing it on fact, not emotions. Good luck with the search....You'll love how a Dually tows that 390.

Yup Got it...Looking at some fords 350's as we speak...I love the Rams it seems like the ford diesel has more kick than the cummings
 
Yup Got it...Looking at some fords 350's as we speak...I love the Rams it seems like the ford diesel has more kick than the cummings

And to be totally honest with you, if I didn't need a Toy Hauler (I've got a Momentum 394M), the Solitude 390RK would be my trailer of choice....I love the floor plan/layout and the Solitude is an extremely nice unit.
 
Thanks Friends! We bought a 2021 Ford F 450! Kathy & I said " We need to hear what others RV'ers Recommend. Need Vs Want.
Blessings to Ya'll.. StevyG
 
Thanks Friends! We bought a 2021 Ford F 450! Kathy & I said " We need to hear what others RV'ers Recommend. Need Vs Want.
Blessings to Ya'll.. StevyG

Well, well, well......Congratulations on the new Beast. Enjoy the new truck and the 390 and safe travels.
 
We have a 2021 Ram 3500 Dually to haul our 390rkr handling, braking hills up and down etc excellent! now if the price of diesel would come down life would be great!
You will find that trying to meet the gvwr of 16800 is impossible! Down load and the cat scale app set up payment then go weigh twice. Once truck only then connected to 5th wheel. You will know how much your truck weighs and how much your 5th wheel weighs you can calculate the pin weight and GVWR good luck! First time I weighed I was shocked! Needless to say we have sold donated a lot of stuff in the last year of our full time adventure!
 
Well, well, well......Congratulations on the new Beast. Enjoy the new truck and the 390 and safe travels.

Update, we bought at Lot at NCL in Crystal River Fl. The we decided we are going to leave the Solitude there. We sold the F450 for almost 10K more than we paid for it. Life is Good.

Happy Travels
 
We've towed our 2022 390rk with a duramax 2500 and 3500 non dually. No issues. Just make sure your carrying capacity can handle it. Tongue weight for ours is 3000 lbs packed.
 
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