That black CAT says I am overweight (along with the wife)

[Leatherman]

So, a visit to the local CAT Scales tells the truth. Just like the scale in the bathroom.

I packed up the trailer (2021 260RD) as we would be ready to camp. All supplies, clothes, etc. I asked the wife to simulate going on a trip for a long weekend (4 days). I packed up the truck (2016 Ram 2500 CTD) with the same in mind. I included three tubs of firewood, full fuel tank and two people in the truck. We then headed out to the scale.

My results on the initial weigh and then the re-weigh with the truck alone and with the trailer:
View attachment CAT Scale Truck ONLY 4-19-2021.pdfView attachment CAT Scale Truck and Trailer 4-19-2021.pdf

So, I entered these numbers into the calculator here: http://towingplanner.com/ActualWeights/FifthWheelCatScales

With the numbers provide my weight for the CCC on the truck are over by about 120 lbs. I guess I will have to skip breakfast before we head out (or drop / move the firewood).

 

[FT4NOW]

If you want to stay married, remember it's all your fault, the wife's weight is NOT what made it over weight. [emoji16]

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[RobWNY]

I guess I'm confused. Your Pin weight is only 1,460 pounds according to that calculator. Two people and three tubs of firewood can't weigh THAT much. What is the Payload rating for that 3/4 ton truck?

 

[triplethreat]

I guess I'm confused. Your Pin weight is only 1,460 pounds according to that calculator. Two people and three tubs of firewood can't weigh THAT much. What is the Payload rating for that 3/4 ton truck?

It's not a "payload" thing.....it's the fact that he's 120 lb over the GVWR of the truck.....which in effect...IS a payload thing. He has eaten up some of the truck's payload already, if the truck by itself weighs 8700 lbs. Likely, as the truck was built, payload was in the 2000 lbs...maybe 2100...2200 lbs. I have no idea what all he's added to the truck....or the original door sticker number, but suffice to say he has added several hundred pounds to the truck since it was built.

 

[Leatherman]

I don't want you to be confused

CCC for the 2500 is 2300 lbs. Diesel chews it up. I also have a small bull bar, step rails and (admittedly) a heavy tonneau cover (backflip). Also, the containers of wood are rather large along with the weight of the fifth wheel hitch. Lastly the 32 gallons of diesel is about 225 lbs. as well. It all takes it's toll on the CCC of the truck.

 

[RobWNY]

I don't want you to be confused

CCC for the 2500 is 2300 lbs. Diesel chews it up. I also have a small bull bar, step rails and (admittedly) a heavy tonneau cover (backflip). Also, the containers of wood are rather large along with the weight of the fifth wheel hitch. Lastly the 32 gallons of diesel is about 225 lbs. as well. It all takes it's toll on the CCC of the truck.

Ok, I understand now. My 2020 Chevy 2500HD Duramax has 3310 lbs. of payload. I didn't realize I had 1000 pounds more payload than previous year 2500's. I agree about the Bakflip being heavy. I have one too. Very nice tonneau cover but they must be 60 lbs. easy.

 

[RobWNY]

It's not a "payload" thing.....it's the fact that he's 120 lb over the GVWR of the truck.....which in effect...IS a payload thing. He has eaten up some of the truck's payload already, if the truck by itself weighs 8700 lbs. Likely, as the truck was built, payload was in the 2000 lbs...maybe 2100...2200 lbs. I have no idea what all he's added to the truck....or the original door sticker number, but suffice to say he has added several hundred pounds to the truck since it was built.

I see now. His truck has a 10,000 lb. GVWR so he's 120 lbs. over. Now it all makes sense to me.

 

[Leatherman]

Its a 4 year difference. My 2500 is a '16. Even a few years newer have more cargo capacity. My buddy has a '19 RAM 2500 CTD and it has more cargo capacity than mine.

 

[triplethreat]

Most of the manufacturers raised the GVWR of their trucks....both in the 3/4 Ton trucks and the 1 Ton SWR. The results are that if the truck stayed close to the base weight of the previous model years, and the GVWR went up...........so does the payload capacity....all things being equal.....same body style, same options, same trim package, etc.

 

[Sportsdad60]

I'm am so relieved that other people are as concerned about their "weight" as I was with our 2000 F350 SRW.
I sleep so much better at night after going on my "F350 DRW" diet. Our current 5th wheel is 15k loaded, and our truck now capable of 32,400 for a 5th wheel.
Does this mean the wife is going to want to upgrade the 310GK-R soon? (Shudders with fear)

 

[Lane Hog]

Don't sweat 120lbs. You could probably exceed the weight by 500 and still be OK (~5% of sticker). The sticker is known capability but there's always a hefty margin for error to keep lawyers happy.

But the numbers police will claim otherwise. You need a 550 or MTD.

 

[GeoffnCheri]

So, a visit to the local CAT Scales tells the truth. Just like the scale in the bathroom.

I packed up the trailer (2021 260RD) as we would be ready to camp. All supplies, clothes, etc. I asked the wife to simulate going on a trip for a long weekend (4 days). I packed up the truck (2016 Ram 2500 CTD) with the same in mind. I included three tubs of firewood, full fuel tank and two people in the truck. We then headed out to the scale.

My results on the initial weigh and then the re-weigh with the truck alone and with the trailer:
View attachment 33891View attachment 33892

So, I entered these numbers into the calculator here: http://towingplanner.com/ActualWeights/FifthWheelCatScales

With the numbers provide my weight for the CCC on the truck are over by about 120 lbs. I guess I will have to skip breakfast before we head out (or drop / move the firewood).

8700 without the trailer is a heavy beast. That only provides 1300# of remaining payload with a GVWR of 10K. Being 120# over the GVWR of your truck would not excite me too much. Take a look at your tire and axle ratings compared to the actual axle weights when hooked up and determine where you are at on those.

 

[Wicked ace]

Unload a tub of firewood to soothe your conscience, burning that much in 4 days seems like a constant bonfire. I have a '19 260RD weighing in at roughly 8500# and my "little" F150 is well within all loading and tow limits. FYI the hitch weight came in around 1525-1550# .
https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/...eet/towing-guides/Ford_Linc_18RVTTowGuide.pdf

 

[Ra&Ta350]

8700 without the trailer is a heavy beast. That only provides 1300# of remaining payload with a GVWR of 10K. Being 120# over the GVWR of your truck would not excite me too much. Take a look at your tire and axle ratings compared to the actual axle weights when hooked up and determine where you are at on those.

Buy tires that can handle additional weight. Mine can carry 4080lbs each. . The payload is an arbitrary figure. Tires are your weak point now.

 

[Leatherman]

I have the stock Firestone tires inflated to 80lbs rear so they hold the maximum weight. Weight rating is 3700 lbs. according to Tire Rack.

I just took a trip this past weekend and it handles perfectly. I did remove two tubs of FW from the truck. It ended up raining most of the weekend and we never even made a single fire.

Thanks to all of you that have responded.

 

[Ra&Ta350]

I have the stock Firestone tires inflated to 80lbs rear so they hold the maximum weight. Weight rating is 3700 lbs. according to Tire Rack.

I just took a trip this past weekend and it handles perfectly. I did remove two tubs of FW from the truck. It ended up raining most of the weekend and we never even made a single fire.

Thanks to all of you that have responded.

The tire’s wt rating is on the sidewall. If I remember correctly the stock Firestone’s rating is 3640lbs each.