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[TucsonJim]

I know the GD guys get a little squeamish dealing with all of the engineers who've bought their products. I'd hate to be one of the GD engineers with constant recommendations to redesign this or that...

Jim

 

[kevinpo]

Hello,
Expect this trend to continue as 10,000 US baby boomers retire each day for the next 13 years or so. Yikes! The pressure on the RV suppliers will be something they haven't seen, ever and will cause the RV manufacturers to constantly scramble for quality suppliers that can keep up with demand. This will cause constant changes in components and and overall design to accommodate these component changes. This will also impact the places to stay with the new hordes of RV'rs hitting the roads. Spare parts will also be challenge.

Regards,
Kevin

 

[Rayrays]

Hi Jason, do agree it is crazy! I'm hoping to talk to GD guys at the show.

 

[Dan the man]

Jason if I was you and was that upset I would trade it for a unit with the fiberglass cap on it. Keep in mind that just because we are only 2 months in to 2016 the model year 2016 trailers were being built in mid 2015.

 

[goducks14]

Where's a pic of the new cap?

 

[CMJ2800BH]

Maybe I am the odd man out here, but I have one of the "old" style 2016 Imagines and none of this is bothering me a bit. I am not in the manufacturing business and not an engineer (although I do employ some) we make changes when the need is realized or we find a way to do it better. We don't go back to all our previous installs and make the change for them too. The folks that used our services before the change got what they agreed to and paid for. I look at this the same way, they are constantly improving their product which will help sales and keep them in business so when I am looking for my next RV they will be around for me to purchase from again, and unless I cant find a floor plan I like, I will. I have had nothing but great experiences with everyone I have come in contact with at GD, despite my dealer being a disaster, they have made sure that I am happy. That is what matters to me. If having a fiberglass front cap was a deal breaker for me when I bought the trailer I wouldn't have bought this trailer, why would it be a deal breaker for me now? The only one that I would really want to retrofit on to mine would be the vent fan, but again, not a big deal to me. It didn't have it when I agreed to purchase the trailer, I knew they existed on other trailers, wasn't a deal breaker to me. Everyone has different ways of looking at things!

 

[RGMutchler]

I have to admit I am really puzzled by this line of posts. If I understand this correctly people are upset that improvements have been made to a product and the manufacturer didn't make all the changes at once but improved the product with in a production year. I would assume that the product you bought has been improved over a previous model. Should the improvements not have been made? Should improvements be made only on a particular schedule rather than incrementally? What improvements should be done within a model year, safety only, appearance only, functional only? No matter when you buy there will probably be a new and improved model. If you are only committed to the status quo then you are bound to be disappointed but I for one appreciate the flexible manner of our manufactures, unlike the old Henry Ford deal for the model T that you could have in any color as long as it was black.

 

[goducks14]

Honestly has anyone ever seen a new trailer come out and a few months latter get a face lift? I haven't and I've been looking at several brands for our next purchase for a long time.Almost always something as prominent as a FG front cap is usually done at the next years cycle. Usually along with outside color/decal changes.
Dealers can't be happy as they will have to sell the outdated (In some minds) unit next to one that looks better. (In some minds). Which one would you want? I know which one I would.
It is somewhat puzzling why GD did this. I could see changing something that was prone to issues like a tv or stereo. Even a swap out for a dinette wouldn't be out of line. Sometimes subs have problems and the MFG needs to find a new sub.

 

[Rayrays]

Honestly has anyone ever seen a new trailer come out and a few months latter get a face lift? I haven't and I've been looking at several brands for our next purchase for a long time.Almost always something as prominent as a FG front cap is usually done at the next years cycle. Usually along with outside color/decal changes.
Dealers can't be happy as they will have to sell the outdated (In some minds) unit next to one that looks better. (In some minds). Which one would you want? I know which one I would.
It is somewhat puzzling why GD did this. I could see changing something that was prone to issues like a tv or stereo. Even a swap out for a dinette wouldn't be out of line. Sometimes subs have problems and the MFG needs to find a new sub.

Thank you!! Exactly the point us (old) imagine owners are trying to make, I think any momentum,solitude or reflection owners would have the same complaint if the front cap (trademark look) was not on brand new model just purchased and then 1 month later was on every other GD model from there on!?!? Nobody is complaining about little issues or changes we are talking about huge issues and changes!!

 

[CMJ2800BH]

So if you bought your trailer and it was one of the last of the 2015's and then they made the big change on the first 2016 without telling anybody it was coming, say one month later, would you still have the same problem? Wouldn't the dealer still be potentially selling the old style alongside the new style? I get what you are saying, but again, I made the decision to buy my trailer based on what was there in front of me at the time after much research of many different brands. I chose mine based on what was important to me. Would I like a fiberglass front cap? Sure, I think it does look better, but I am not going to complain to GD about mine not having it because it didn't have it when I decided to buy the trailer. I knew they were available on other trailers, it didn't matter to me enough to steer me away from GD and on to one of those trailers. I think I would be more upset if I just bought one of those other trailers with the fiberglass cap because I really liked every single thing about the Imagine but just couldn't live without that fiberglass cap and then they come out with the Imagine w/ the cap!

Everybody has different views and things hit people in different ways. I am still a very happy Imagine owner, and if my trailer ends up parked next to one with the cap and other stuff at the campground someday, I will still be happy.

 

[JCR GD]

I am still a very happy Imagine owner, and if my trailer ends up parked next to one with the cap and other stuff at the campground someday, I will still be happy.

...and proud that you had one of the very first ones.

 

[Rayrays]

So if you bought your trailer and it was one of the last of the 2015's and then they made the big change on the first 2016 without telling anybody it was coming, say one month later, would you still have the same problem? Wouldn't the dealer still be potentially selling the old style alongside the new style? I get what you are saying, but again, I made the decision to buy my trailer based on what was there in front of me at the time after much research of many different brands. I chose mine based on what was important to me. Would I like a fiberglass front cap? Sure, I think it does look better, but I am not going to complain to GD about mine not having it because it didn't have it when I decided to buy the trailer. I knew they were available on other trailers, it didn't matter to me enough to steer me away from GD and on to one of those trailers. I think I would be more upset if I just bought one of those other trailers with the fiberglass cap because I really liked every single thing about the Imagine but just couldn't live without that fiberglass cap and then they come out with the Imagine w/ the cap!

Everybody has different views and things hit people in different ways. I am still a very happy Imagine owner, and if my trailer ends up parked next to one with the cap and other stuff at the campground someday, I will still be happy.

Ok I know wot your saying, don't get me wrong I love my imagine and think GD are a great company!! I guess I'm just annoyed because in December when I took the factory tour and came to the end I asked all the questions regarding why the imagine didn't have the same cap as the rest as I didn't want a huge outside change to be coming down the pipeline and not be aware of it, also I do not intend of trading mine in anytime soon and plan on this lasting me for a long time. I was told No there wasn't anything as far as outside goes in the pipeline and then 1 month later here's the new cap!! I knew obviously there will and would be changes that's part of the business and hope GD continue to make changes and grow. Grand design would have got my business just if I had of been told this was happening they just would have got it now not then.

 

[GD350M]

I have one of the first Momentum 350M. I loved the trailer so much, that I purchased the first one the dealer got on the lot. It was missing the outside TV, but that was ok to me. Then I went for some warranty work and walked over to a 350M they had on the lot. They changed several things from mine, like put the heater vent in the main bathroom under the cabinet instead of the floor in front of the shower. Also, put in a better vent fan in the main bathroom instead of the el cheapo one. They added a drawer in the kitchen in the cabinet next to the stove (I love this and will probably get Grand Design to build one for me to put in mine and I'll pay for it) They also updated the utility connection area (water and cable) with a different system. Another thing was in the garage they changed the Happi-Jac bed to the new version were the seats fold flat to the wall. But with all these changes, I still love my unit. I will purchase another unit form them in the future as long as their customer service is till top notch and units are built well.

I get what your saying, but it really shouldn't be a complaint to GD for making changes, but more of a good thing. There is a section in the forum for people to suggest ideas on improvements. If they agree they like them, they put them in to the newer units. As an example, a lot of the folks here complained that there was no vent to the outside of the kitchen when having the microwave as the vent hood. GD addressed this and my unit has the microwave and it vents to the outside instead of back in the camper.

Happy Camping

 

[CMJ2800BH]

Ok I know wot your saying, don't get me wrong I love my imagine and think GD are a great company!! I guess I'm just annoyed because in December when I took the factory tour and came to the end I asked all the questions regarding why the imagine didn't have the same cap as the rest as I didn't want a huge outside change to be coming down the pipeline and not be aware of it, also I do not intend of trading mine in anytime soon and plan on this lasting me for a long time. I was told No there wasn't anything as far as outside goes in the pipeline and then 1 month later here's the new cap!! I knew obviously there will and would be changes that's part of the business and hope GD continue to make changes and grow. Grand design would have got my business just if I had of been told this was happening they just would have got it now not then.

I missed the part about you being told a month before your purchase that there were no major exterior changes coming, that is different. I will probably be trading up sooner than planned, every time i look over at my wife she is on her I-pad looking at GD's fifth wheels! Maybe another reason the Imagine changes don't bother me so much!

 

[Next Door Nabors]

We just purchased a new imagine 2800bh with the new upgrades. Picking up in two days. We were sold with a earlier 2016 model but they only had the one and it was set aside for the RV show coming up. I love the new upgrades but I am paying for them compared to the older 2016 (oxymoronish) lol. Sure they might upgrade next month and I might feel a little bitter but I'm happy with what I'm paying right now for what I'm getting right now. So keep moving forward.

 

[Gstepp22]

Geez. After reading this thread, I am second guessing considering a new imagine 2600. I had it narrowed down to a few manufacturers and GD was on the list. But if they are pulling stuff like this, then I will pass. I would have been so upset to find out that one month after I purchased they offered a front cap option. That is one of the features I have on my list and imagine just does not have it. That's why I will maybe get a spree or vibe. The local dealership told me imagines do not have front cap as an option. Just asked them today.

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[minnow101]

Geez. After reading this thread, I am second guessing considering a new imagine 2600. I had it narrowed down to a few manufacturers and GD was on the list. But if they are pulling stuff like this, then I will pass. I would have been so upset to find out that one month after I purchased they offered a front cap option. That is one of the features I have on my list and imagine just does not have it. That's why I will maybe get a spree or vibe. The local dealership told me imagines do not have front cap as an option. Just asked them today.

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Would love to be there at that dealershup when the GD delivery driver pulls in with a new Imagine with the front FB cap and watch all their collective jaws drop.

One has to realize that an educated customer is 100 times more knowledgeable than 95% of the RV sales guys.

 

[Gstepp22]

Imagine rep confirmed with my dealership today.

"The wheels and tires are 15” and they have no intentions of changing to 16”. Also
"The front cap is mandatory as well as the aluminum wheels and power tongue jack."
"There is a very minor cosmetic change to the interior where the pattern on some fabrics are now horizontal instead of vertical"

Now that I confirmed they actually do have a cap, I might soon be proud owner of a 2150 or 2600.



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[huntr70]

Not Mid-Year changes, it's Feb 2016 and a lot of these are out of date. I need to trade in every 3-6 months to stay current??? No these should have been released as 2017 features. I'm all for moving ahead but not at upsetting current customers. I would not buy from them again if I know it will change again a month after i buy it. I'll stick with a company that make improvements and releases them every model year. If these changes where made because the original design was bad then all should be updates.

Then you should not own an RV since all manufacturers do it. They are constantly changing things.

Sometimes it is because of vendors changing items, sometimes it is upgrades.

 

[LCBoyer]

RV manufacturers are in the business to make money, they keep improving to keep up with the competition