What to do with water after sanitizing system

Honestly, the worst things for the environment coming out of grey water is not the galley tank's food waste/fats nor the dilute bleach. It's the soap, shampoo, and conditioner products and mouthwashes many use.
[MENTION=38751]Hiking Girl[/MENTION], your plan is fine. Not sanitizing the freshwater tank, you'll be using very little sanitizing solution (remember to bypass your water heater!) and it won't take much to flush through with clean water. You shouldn't have more than 10 gallons in total.
 
Although it varies somewhat, bleach in the jug has a concentration of about 50,000 ppm. We all know what spilling straight bleach on hands/fabric can do. Hence the fears about using it. The amount in "city water" is usually close to 0 (it gets used up on the way to your home). In a pool, it can be from 2-5 ppm. Without protective other chemicals, in a pool it can break down in less than an hour, due to sunlight. The end result in pools is table salt (NaCl) and CO2 after breaking down. If a lot is used up killing things, a by product is chloramines, which produce that well known "pool smell" - so the stronger the smell, the dirtier the source water. Clean water with that low of a Cl concentration has almost no smell.
In RV's, the diluted concentration using the typical "recipes" is 50 ppm. While far below recommended levels for rapid sanitizing (spraying on things, brief soaks, etc.), which is up to 5000 ppm, the added factor is time - let it work for hours rather than minutes. Without sunlight, it can persist longer to do its job.
Tanks/pipes/hoses grow things if there is any moisture at all. Always. It is generally harmless bacteria or molds (except for those with sensitivities). They may make the water smelly or taste off. Only if you start with untreated water is there a risk of things that will make you sick. (Streams, lakes, untested wells, etc.) Because city water has no to very low concentrations of chlorine, it will do almost nothing to combat anything growing. But generally, those that don't sanitize aren't taking much of a risk, either. At worst, the water may seem a little "funky".
That 50 ppm amount breaks down to some level doing it's job in the fresh tank and plumbing. When it hits the gray tanks, where there may be LOTS of things growing and organic residue (soaps, food, shower residue, etc.) it breaks down very fast. It can be all over the map as to how much is left over when you dump.
Some places regulate how to dispose of chlorinated water (like emptying a pool). The concern is the huge quantity (5,000-40,000+ gallons) that may make it via a storm drain to a nearby stream/pond/lake and use up its chlorine disrupting the local biome. Hence using a sewer to a local treatment facility is preferred.
But, the amount of water we use in sanitizing our RV's is a huge amount less, and therefore a huge amount less of chlorine being disposed of.
When dumping 50 gal in a yard? First it is not a lot of water, second the concentration is already less than one started with, third most gets used up almost instantaneously on contact with the soil organics, fourth any exposed to sunlight is broken down VERY quickly. With all of that, the impact to local vegetation is virtually zero and there is nothing that persists to migrate to wells or ground water.
Going to a dump station is the greatly preferred method. But very occasional ground dumping has no short or long term impact to be feared. Other than plant damage (due to the very high concentration) would there be any other issue if you spilled that original 1/2-1 cup of bleach on the ground?

BTW - pool test strips are notoriously very inaccurate, and generally can't read concentrations higher than about 10 ppm. So other than a guess that "there's not much left" they are pretty ineffective.

And - to those that struggle to get rid of the "bleach smell" after sanitizing...well, that smell is a flag that there was a lot that needed to be sanitized in the system.....

Me? I worry more about what other smelly junk may get flushed out of the gray tank, onto my lawn than the left over bleach water.
 
And - to those that struggle to get rid of the "bleach smell" after sanitizing...well, that smell is a flag that there was a lot that needed to be sanitized in the system.....

Me? I worry more about what other smelly junk may get flushed out of the gray tank, onto my lawn than the left over bleach water.

To all the people with a swimming pool;
What do you backwash the pool filter into? (Pool filters need periodic cleaning, and you run water backwards through them, flushing the accumulated dirt out another pipe to somewhere that isn't the pool)
I and all of my neighbours just backwash the filter onto the lawn.

This concoction in the grey tank (assuming they were empty to start with) is nowhere as nasty as pool water backwash.
 
Our trailer is parked near our yard. As long as it is just rinse water, we just let it water the trees nearby. We use very little bleach, and never smell it later. If you smell a lot of bleach, you used too much!
 
Thank you! This is helpful. Logistically it will be challenging, but doable.

I think it would depend on what material your rv is parked on. I have my rig parked at home and sanitize it at least every spring after sitting all winter. I do the bleach sanitize and then follow with the vinegar solution and it works well. A little time consuming but it gives peace of mind. Where my rig is parked is on top of about 2 feet of gravel and I just pull the handle and empty the tanks right there on the gravel. No problems. The chlorine or the vinegar solution is well diluted. If I was parked on grass I might not do it.
 
I agree lorend. The formula, per Grand Design, is 1/4 cup of bleach per gallon of water added to every 15 gallons of water to tank. 90-gallon tank so there is 1 1/2 cups of bleach to a 90-gallon filled water tank. Run a bunch of that through the various faucets. Take the rig for a drive to slosh it all around a bit and within 3 hours, drain what's left in the fresh tank and the gray tank straight onto the gravel or surrounding field. One of the benefits of owning a 40-acre alfalfa farm. I understand others have to obey covenants, HOA's or live in a city environment. But out here, there is no problem letting 'sanitized water' out onto the ground - IMHO :rolleyes:
 
To all the people with a swimming pool;
What do you backwash the pool filter into? (Pool filters need periodic cleaning, and you run water backwards through them, flushing the accumulated dirt out another pipe to somewhere that isn't the pool)
I and all of my neighbours just backwash the filter onto the lawn.

This concoction in the grey tank (assuming they were empty to start with) is nowhere as nasty as pool water backwash.

Me too! Although the concentration is lower in pool water, I've also done the same with the RV, for the last 12 years (almost always in the same spot). No issues.

The "nasty" in the grey tank may be soap, food bits, grease, toothpaste, etc. left behind in an "empty" tank, that hasn't broken down much. Not a lot there, but might be a pretty minor attractant for bugs/animals. Pool backwash is mostly dead plants (almost all algae, some leaf bits and the like) with some bug/worm parts added. Can be a strong mix, due to the filter concentrating it. Both end up adding nutrients to the local area where dumped. So it may be better for that patch of grass, long term.

More and more urban areas are banning dumping of pool water in storm sewers, and even open land. So they mandate only using a sanitary sewer connection. But they are worried about 10,000-30,000+ gallons hitting whatever natural environment the storm drain goes to. So while it might be technically not allowed in one's area, I doubt anyone will go to jail for dumping 50 gal.
 
Am I the only one who has no problem letting gray water go on the ground in my yard?

I am the same. It's only shower and dishwash water. At beach area parks and oceanfront campgrounds they have outside showers that drain on the ground. Fish cleaning stations drain on the ground. Remote tent camping you always wash dishes and dump dishwater on the ground. Since the grey tank was empty before starting the sanitize there should be nothing in it to speak of.
 
Am I the only one who has no problem letting gray water go on the ground in my yard?

Nope, you're not alone. We have drained the gray after cleaning the tanks down the driveway. If it's a smelly tank full we will put it down the sewer/clean out tap that's conveniently next to the trailer
 

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