Interesting. I carry a couple extra plastic versions with me. I didn't realize they made an aluminum version. I broke the first one and was not prepared with a large enough bucket to catch the fuel so ended up soaking myself and shirt and laying in a puddle trying to figure out a way to stop the flow until I could get a bucket. Now my little jar always has a bucket under it when I just want to drain enough to check for water.
FWIW, Blackstone says they are thinking of dropping the TBN as they don't feel it's all that useful. Or that is what they I remember was said in the last newsletter I got from them. I don't remember all the details, just that they didn't seem to feel the TBN was worth the extra dough.
I have no evidence of issues, either through experience or forums. Like the very high percent of owners, I have never seen a drop of water in the fuel/water separator or cloudy fuel when filter is drained. The filters can pull and hold water that may not be readily visible--around saturation. This would not be visible water in the lines (if you could see through them) and of course it would not be seen in the filter unless filter was dissected. This is why Ford dealers recommend more frequent (the sooner of once a year or XX miles) service than the manual. Of course, they many times make these recommendations in excess, partly to be OK with worse than average use and partly for increased profit.
Walmart (if a person is willing to deal with the issues) $24 for 5 quarts (thanks to Hoppy Frood for correcting me mistakenly saying gallons)I agree with respect to the brand of oil, it shouldn't make a difference in warranty claims. I also keep all receipts and detailed spreadsheet of maintenance. I don't know why I've stuck to Motorcraft oil, it's just there on the shelf and easy enough I guess. I'll have to compare prices again. The last time I compared it was because my nephew said T-6 was cheaper, but he didn't account for T-6 being sold in 4 quart bottles (at the time anyway) vs 5 quarts for Motorcraft. So it was the same price per quart. Might not be the case today though. That was two years ago.
My 2022 actually did come with a printed manual in the glovebox. When I ordered the truck I did not expect to receive one based on what I was hearing but there it was. They must have made good on going exclusively electronic since then. I agree, the paper manual is just nice to have handy. Although it didn't help me pick the best oil viscosity in this case, I don't remember reading that at all at the time.
Edit: Ok, wow! Just checked pricing. Rotella and Motorcraft per quart are still priced equally for 10W-30. But move to 5W-40 and the price is a shocker! Motorcraft is $15/quart, and Rotella is $7/quart. That's enough to make me change brands.
That link shows $24 for ONE gallon.
I stick with Ford's synthetic blend and I always get my oil changed at the Dealer. This way Ford has a record of my oil changes and they can't weasel out of covering my motor for the extended warranty.
The app for my F450 lets me create Owner Entries for maintenance. I'm pretty sure that's the same record keeping for maintenance that the dealer uses since I see their entries as well. The app will let you add pictures of receipts or whatever as additional proof of service.
The dealership where I got mine changed last wrote $216 as the cost, about half was labor & supplies. (it was free for me for an unrelated reason). That's with the Ford synthetic blend. And I had to make an appointment, drive over to the dealer, & sit and wait for someone I didn't know to work on my truck.
I have NEVER had good results at oil change shops. They cracked the case on my neighbors transmission by overtightening the plug and they left the filter loose on my friend's F350 when I tried to be nice and have the oil changed for letting me borrow it.
The dealership where I got mine changed last wrote $216 as the cost, about half was labor & supplies. (it was free for me for an unrelated reason). That's with the Ford synthetic blend. And I had to make an appointment, drive over to the dealer, & sit and wait for someone I didn't know to work on my truck.
13 quarts of T6 (not blended) and a filter costs me $110 .. well, plus rubber gloves & paper towels.
Well look at that! Two years and I never noticed I could add my own maintenance activities to the app. Thanks for the tip!
My oil changes for my 2018 Cummins run about $10 for a filter and 3 gallons of oil is about $40, so I think I can easily justify about 30 minutes of my time for savings of at least $100. My auto parts store is next door to the local restaurant which we frequent, so there's no extra trip for the parts, and I drop off the used oil when I pick up the filter. I buy the oil at Walmart: Delvac 1300 super. And if you're "rolling around on the ground", then you're doing it wrong.
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5w40 diesel oil that meets the WSS-M2C171-F1 specification, rotella is good, I like schaffers and amsoil. 2012 f250 with 183k on it.
Fumoto valve?My oil changes for my 2018 Cummins run about $10 for a filter and 3 gallons of oil is about $40, so I think I can easily justify about 30 minutes of my time for savings of at least $100. My auto parts store is next door to the local restaurant which we frequent, so there's no extra trip for the parts, and I drop off the used oil when I pick up the filter. I buy the oil at Walmart: Delvac 1300 super. And if you're "rolling around on the ground", then you're doing it wrong.
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